Suffolk County Red Light Camera Tickets

Posted by Matthew Weiss on October 30, 2010  /   Posted in Traffic Tickets

Suffolk County has followed Nassau County’s lead and installed numerous red light cameras. These tickets are $50 each but do not carry points or negative insurance consequences.

Below is the list of Suffolk County red light camera locations currently known to us.

Intersection                                Town           Direction

27N @ CR112 Johnson Ave     Bohemia           SB
27N @ CR112 Johnson Ave     Bohemia           WB
27N @ CR112 Johnson Ave     Bohemia           NB
27N @ CR112 Johnson Ave     Bohemia           EB
28 NSR @ Rt112                        E Patchogue    SB
27 NSR @ Rt 112                       E Patchogue    WB
LIE NSR @ Wheeler Road      Hauppauge      SB
LIE NSR @ Wheeler Road      Hauppauge     WB
454 @ Motor Parkway             Islandia           NB
454 @ Motor Parkway             Islandia          SB
454 @ Motor Parkway             Islandia          EB
454 @ Motor Parkway             Islandia          WB
454 @ Suffolk Ave                    Islandia          NB
454 @ Suffolk Ave                    Islandia          SB
LIE NSR @ Motor Parkway   Lakeland          SB
LIE NSR @ Motor Parkway   Lakeland          WB
LIE NSR @ Old Nichols Rd   Lakeland          SB
LIE NSR @ Old Nichols Rd   Lakeland          WB
LIE NSR @ Ocean Ave            Lakeland          SB
LIE NSR @ Ocean Ave            Lakeland          WB
LIE SSR @ Ocean Ave             Lakeland          NB
LIE SSR @ Ocean Ave             Lakeland          EB
LIE NSR @ Ronkonkoma Ave    Ronkonkoma        SB
LIE NSR @ Ronkonkoma Ave    Ronkonkoma        WB
Rt 25 @ Pidgeon Hill                S Huntington  EB
Rt 25 @ Pidgeon Hill                S Huntington  WB

Middle County (R25) and Boyle Road in Selden

Middle Country Road (Rt 25) and Patchogue-Mt Sinai Road (CR83) in Selden

Per RJ, the following are new locations:

Old Town Rd
Mark Tree Rd
Stony Brook Rd
Rt 25 (Middle Country Rd)

293 Comments

  1. DianeMB May 20, 2014 1:27 pm Reply

    I got a ticket at the intersection of 110 and Conklin in Farmingdale. I stopped prior to making a right on red. The citation shows my brake lights on, so I viewed the video. I stopped. I went to the safeNY website and it does not state how long one must wait, just that you must stop, check the intersection for pedestrians or vehicles, then you can go. Exactly what I did. I printed this out and intend to fight it. I think too many people just pay it without question.

    • Matthew Weiss May 21, 2014 7:32 am Reply

      Diane,

      Good luck fighting this ticket. If your vehicle came to a complete stop (all four wheels stopped moving), then you seem to have a valid defense.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Rick Bolten June 6, 2014 12:14 am Reply

        They doctor the video , I too received a picture and shows my brake lights on when I viewed the video there is a definite “hiccup ” in the sequence of the frames I know I definitely stopped at the intersection even though there is no light controlling that lane it is a “peel off” lane off set at an obscure angle the 3 lights there control a left turn lane and lane 1 and 2 this curved turn off has no light and leads into a private drive of a shopping center

        • Matthew Weiss June 6, 2014 4:03 am Reply

          Rick,

          If there is a “hiccup” that creates a gap in the video, then you can plead not guilty and fight the ticket. You may not win but you have a decent argument on your side.

          Matthew Weiss

  2. Mosley August 25, 2013 9:57 pm Reply

    Two new cameras in Bay Shore. Intersection of Union Blvd and 5th Ave and intersection of Union blvd and Brentwood Rd.

  3. Bob June 25, 2013 9:53 pm Reply

    I recently received a red light ticket in the mail for a left turn on a red arrow at New Hyde Park Road at Marcus Avenue. I was behind a Nassau County PD ambulance which turned ahead of me. The height of the ambulance prevented me from seeing the signal turning red. The photo appears to show the ambulance also turning through the red signal while blocking my view. Do I have a valid defense to contest this summons, because I couldn’t see the signal turn red while I was following an official vehicle that also made the left turn on red in front of me?

    Thanks.

  4. S.L. May 20, 2013 5:53 pm Reply

    I’m curious… has anyone won a case at a hearing for no signage??

    Our ticket was for right turn on red (husband braked & looked left) on RT 110 and Conklin Street, southbound.

    Thanks!

    • Matthew Weiss May 20, 2013 5:58 pm Reply

      S.L.,

      Although signage is required, no one has reported winning a case on these grounds. If you win, please let us know.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Joanne June 9, 2014 5:05 pm Reply

        Like S.L., my ticket was for right turn on red on RT 110 and Conklin Street, southbound. I got ticketed in September 2013 and paid the ticket because I live out of state. This is not a normal right turn lane; there are two stop lines. One is at the intersection, and one is appx. 25 feet before the intersection. This line is just a white line on the lane, with no signage indicating that it was a red light stop line for the intersection. This line is so far from the intersection, I had no idea that I was supposed to stop there, especially since the intersection itself requires an additional stop. I was told by the County that once the intersection light turned red, I was supposed to stop on the line and then continue to the intersection stop line. I believe that this set-up is hazardous because with no signage indicating a stop, the driver behind me would not expect me to make a sudden stop in a traffic lane.

        • Matthew Weiss June 9, 2014 9:44 pm Reply

          Joanne,

          You haven’t asked a question so I cannot seem to help you. I can say that these tickets are VERY hard to beat and there is little up-side even if you win.

          Matthew Weiss

  5. mosley May 13, 2013 9:58 pm Reply

    I just received a ticket for not stopping for a red light and making a right turn. Just a heads up but as of April 1st, 2013 there is an Administration fee of $30 in addition to the $50 fine. I wonder why they need $30 for administration fees? I would think my outrageous Suffolk county taxes or the fine itself handle the administration fees?

    Regardless, its now $80…

    BTW, this was at RT111 and 495.

    • Matthew Weiss May 13, 2013 10:08 pm Reply

      Mosley,

      Thanks for the heads up. Nassau County first started the “administrative fee”. The fee is a way for the county to raise more money.

      Matthew Weiss

  6. Carl February 12, 2013 11:25 am Reply

    If this red light program is treated like a parking ticket, what happens if a rental car is caught going through a red light. Does the rental company get the ticket or the driver? If the driver gets the ticket why does a private owner which did not commit this heinous crime get ticketed? If the offender does not have a valid registration do they come after you? This is a revenue generator for Suffolk county that all. Being an out of state owner which did not commit this crime I refuse to donate to Suffolk County. If everyone rolls on this and does not fight this where will it end? What will it take for the people to stand up and refuse this intrusion?

    • Matthew Weiss February 12, 2013 2:25 pm Reply

      Carl,

      Yes, the rental car company will get the ticket and, under its lease agreement, will then bill you for it. The owner gets it because that’s how the legislation was draft and gets around the due process considerations that ordinarily would be involved with a traffic ticket. In terms of your decision to refuse to pay the ticket, I would recommend that you pay it (but of course you’ll do what you want).

      Thanks for sharing your feedback.

      Matthew Weiss

  7. Alan January 12, 2013 3:46 pm Reply

    My wife received a red light ticket for a violation at Route 111 @ 495. I was driving the vehicle and would like to fight the summons (right on red). Can I appear? Or is my wife required to appear as the registered owner?

    Thanks,

    • Matthew Weiss January 12, 2013 5:25 pm Reply

      Alan,

      Your wife must fight it but they may allow you to appear for her. Make sure that you came to a complete stop. Otherwise, you are guilty of an illegal right on red.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Alan January 12, 2013 5:34 pm Reply

        Thank you Matthew. Do I need to call the court to make arrangements? I’d like to appear, as I was the driver (alone in the vehicle) and it is much easier for me to be there.

        • Matthew Weiss January 13, 2013 9:34 am Reply

          Alan,

          No, your wife plead not guilty and, on her court date, you show up as her witness (and, if she doesn’t attend) and representative. I would bring a notarized letter showing that you have her permission.

          Matthew Weiss

  8. Latashia Carney October 5, 2012 5:13 pm Reply

    Last night on my way home I was flashed by a camera while making a right turn. I am sure that I made a complete stop. Is there a time limit as to how long one must stop without getting ticketed?
    Also, my dad got a ticket at the same location a few weeks ago. While reviewing the video we noticed the distortion of the street line markings at the point in the video in which he supposedly turned without stopping, should we fight this?

  9. Steven Diamond September 6, 2012 11:47 am Reply

    I know its a long shot but I made a left in the intersection on the LIE service road and Ronkonkoma Ave. I saw the Camera flash. The intersection is near the train station. I was in a situation where the car in front of me was going very slow and the car behind me was close to me cause he wanted to make the light. The end result was the slow car made the light and me trying to make sure the car behind me did not hit me went through the light as it was red while making the left on to Ronlonkoma ave. And to make things worse i missed my train. No defense right.

  10. Government Rebel August 24, 2012 10:17 am Reply

    The Red light program is run by Lockheed Martin.

  11. Robert Kelly August 23, 2012 3:52 pm Reply

    Listen closely and you can hear the sound of the robotic police state ratcheting up. Unlike fallible human cops, who have some discretion in their actions, the robocam/computer/super cop dispenses mechanized justice with unrelenting speed and accuracy. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but even if I deserve the roboticket I receive from an unthinking, unfeeling computerocracy, I feel the loss of the human touch deeply and resent the punishment much more than the $50 fine might suggest. We’re in trouble when the state benefits from its citizens losses.

  12. Mike August 15, 2012 12:59 pm Reply

    Location: NY347 @ Mark Tree Rd – West Bound
    Received a ticket for turning right on red.
    There is a sign that says “camera recording” however, there is no sign of “NO TURN ON RED” at this intersection. There is infact two signs “NO STOPPING ANYTIME”, one sign is clearly visible in the photographs and the video.
    This is confusing. Should the driver follow – “no stopping anytime?” Can this confusion be disputed?

    • Matthew Weiss August 15, 2012 4:31 pm Reply

      Mike,

      This confusion likely won’t help you. If you failed to make a full stop (all four wheels stopped moving), then you actually violated the law. If not, then plead not guilty and fight this one (even though, in my opinion, the sign issue isn’t compelling).

      Matthew Weiss

  13. ken johnson June 1, 2012 10:29 am Reply

    i received a ticket on 454 NB at suffolk ave. i dont remember a turn signal but i was behind a van also making a right. The suffolk ave traffic had the left arrow. I was stopped behind the van so when he turned i turned. There was no, no turn on red signal so i assumed we were in the right so how did i get a ticket? The light was red and we were stopped before we turned!

    • Matthew Weiss June 1, 2012 10:40 am Reply

      Ken Johnson,

      Check out the video of your incident. If you did not come to a complete stop before making the right on red, then you are guilty. I am assuming there are no signs that prohibit right on reads, as you write.

      Matthew Weiss

      • ken johnson June 1, 2012 12:38 pm Reply

        i was stopped initially, but when the van ahead of me moved up so did i, the light flashed and i wasnt even in my turn yet.

        • Matthew Weiss June 1, 2012 12:39 pm Reply

          Ken Johnson,

          Your initial stop won’t help. You must stop fully at the cross walk or stop line, and then turn. Stopping ahead of this location due to traffic doesn’t help.

          Matthew Weiss

  14. THOMAS TORRISI May 19, 2012 5:07 pm Reply

    I RECENTLY GOT A 50.00 SUMMONS FOR MAKING A RIGHT TURN AT RTE 110 AND CONKLIN ST WHILE THE LIGHT WAS RED, WAS IT LEGAL?

    • Matthew Weiss May 19, 2012 5:21 pm Reply

      Thomas,

      You have to check the intersection to see if there are any signs prohibiting a “right on red” turn. Also, if you didn’t come to a complete stop, then likewise your turn was illegal.

      Matthew Weiss

  15. Joe W. May 10, 2012 12:53 am Reply

    I did make a complete stop, it’s just that I triggered the camera when I stopped a few inches past the white line. I then did not make the turn on red but waited about 30 seconds for the signal to turn green to proceed. Thanks.

    • Matthew Weiss May 10, 2012 6:35 am Reply

      Joe W.

      I see. If and when you receive a ticket on the mail, there will be a link to watch yourself on a video clip. See how it looks. If you indeed stopped (albeit ahead of the line), then I would plead not guilty and fight it.

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

  16. Joe W. May 9, 2012 8:33 pm Reply

    Hi Matt, I’m from New Jersey and was homeward bound two nights ago when I approached the entrance for 495W while traveling south on Ronkonkoma Ave. As I approached a red light at the intersection where I was to make a right turn I treated it as I would in NJ(right turn on red allowed also). I slowed for my stop but at the last split second I was surprised by a strobe flash and figured it must be Big Brother watching. Evidently I passed over the white line by a few inches(my fault)before I was at a dead stop and that caused the strobe response. I hadn’t seen the traffic camera warning sign but then again I was watching for the expressway signs being I’m not familiar with the area. I held my ground and refused to give the Eye in the Sky any more ammo by not making the right turn until the light turned green again, maybe 30 seconds(there were no cars behind me, so I wasn’t blocking any one). I’d appreciate your thoughts on how this one may turn out. Thanks, Joe.

    • Matthew Weiss May 9, 2012 9:52 pm Reply

      Joe W,

      It sounds like you are guilty. You cannot make a right on red unless you come to a complete stop.

      Nothing that you wrote sounds like it will help you defend this case.

      Matthew Weiss

  17. Rob April 28, 2012 3:30 pm Reply

    I made a turn on red after full stop. There is no sign indicating a NO TURN ON RED. Can I dispute with my photos?

  18. Robert Kane April 18, 2012 1:42 pm Reply

    I’ve driven just about every type of vehicle you can possible name, from Tanks, to 22 Wheel Semi’s. I’ve been driving since I’m 18 years old and probabley have a couple of million miles under my belt. I’ve seen things that would make most people’s hair curl when it comes to accidents. Mostly stupid because people take their concentration away from the vehicle and are distracted by something.
    These Strob/Flashing lights are very, very dangerous. I’ve notice, in broad daylight on Sunrise Highway heading east, the Strob at Johnson Ave. I’ve also seen people take their eyes off the road to see what that strob light is. Traveling at 55 Miles per hour, the speed limit, which most people don’t, the distance per second that a car travels is several hundred feet. Without your total concentration on the wheel of the vehicle you are driving you could be involved in an accident that brings 10 to 12 vehicles into the fray. I’ve written this same letter to Newsday, when the published an article about these camera’s and they totally ignored it. I guess the Dolan Family only want the “news that fits their agenda, rather than all the news that’s fit to print”.
    Thank you for listening, but a serious multi vehicle accident is going to happen, it’s just a matter of time.

  19. Tony April 13, 2012 7:17 pm Reply

    Another thing. I just paid one for my wife, I paid online and paid a $4.00 processing fee, what kind of BS is that. If I mail in a check which needs to be handled by people it is $50.00, if I pay online which is handled entirely electronicly I have to pay an additional $4.00?? WTF!

  20. Tony April 13, 2012 6:22 pm Reply

    I just got a ticket at Commack Road and the Expressway S Service road. I am not sure if the violation is for no turn on red or I didnt stop long enough but either way I did not make the turn. As I approched the intersection I saw the flash and realized I was about to get a ticket and stoped short. I am past the white line but the video clearly shows that I had stopped so I did not go through the red light, I was just in front of the white line. Can I beat this?

    Thanks Tony

  21. Rick March 17, 2012 12:42 pm Reply

    Hello Matthew, why do the police think they are above the law when driving a car? A
    Suffolk County police car made a U-turn on Motor Pkwy. this morning right in front of me without signaling! Last week I drove on LIE going west, when a police car came out from the HOV lane crossing the white lane which is prohibited. If you and I do that I we will get a ticket! The police car then continued going west in the middle lane like anybody else, no alarm nothing in both incidences. If I take pictures or a video of such maneuvers could I get them in trouble?

    • Matthew Weiss March 17, 2012 7:06 pm Reply

      Rick,

      I get this question a lot. I’ve rarely seen a police officer get in trouble for disobeying a traffic law.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Rick March 19, 2012 9:19 am Reply

        This is crazy!! If someone would take pictures or a video of such dangerous maneuvers by police could that someone possibly get them a ticket??

  22. Dan March 16, 2012 7:46 am Reply

    Ok so this happened earlier today, I was coming up to a red camera light and I conitued to roll up slowly passed the white line or mark. I made a full stop and did not turn but the camera still flashed. Will i get a ticket?

  23. Carolyn March 2, 2012 5:59 pm Reply

    I have a strange one. My son just received a video ticket from Suffolk County for a BMW with his plate # going through a redlight. He drives a Hondo and we leave in Niagara Falls and he has never been to Suffolk Co. He has never lost his plates so how does another car end up with the same plate number? DMV checked for him and it is not a duplicate plate. How do I get Suffolk County to believe it is not my son or his car?

    • Matthew Weiss March 2, 2012 11:56 pm Reply

      Carolyn,

      That’s weird. Are both vehicles passenger cars? Are you sure the video shows your son’s plate and car?

      Matthew Weiss

      • Rick March 16, 2012 1:12 pm Reply

        The Judge told me yesterday in traffic court that no warning sings are required in Suffolk County at red light cameras.

        • Matthew Weiss March 16, 2012 1:14 pm Reply

          Interesting, the Suffolk County Red Light program website state that a sign is required.

          • Rick March 17, 2012 12:35 am

            Suffolk County Red Light Camera official website states:
            “The purpose of the red light camera program is to improve intersection safety by reducing the number of red light violations. If the warning signs stop motorists from running red lights rather than the cameras themselves, then the purpose of the program is being met.”
            It doesen’t say anywhere that warning signs are required by law.

          • Matthew Weiss March 17, 2012 8:50 am

            Rick,

            Thanks for sharing this info! I’m sure it will help many of our readers.

            Matthew Weiss

  24. Mike Malinowski February 22, 2012 10:06 am Reply

    Hello, I think there should be a requirement for intersections that have Red light Cameras. There should be a visible timer display that lets the approaching motorist know just when the light will be changing. Just as they do for some places that have pedestrian walks. This way a motorist can adjust speed and be prepared to stop in time,and also may take away some of the fear of rear end collisions due to quick stops.
    Mike.

    • Matthew Weiss February 22, 2012 11:01 pm Reply

      Mike,

      I love your suggestion. The countdown clocks on certain pedestrian lights is very helpful and mandating them for those intersections with red light cameras would certainly help motorists avoid sudden stops and unfair tickets.

      Great suggestion!

      Matthew Weiss

  25. Bill February 16, 2012 11:06 am Reply

    I received a traffic light violation from Nassau County. I was driving a rental car. The violation is addressed to an improper street address and the city is listed as Florida when it is actually in NY. Is this a valid defense.
    Thanks

    • Matthew Weiss February 17, 2012 12:41 am Reply

      Bill,

      Feel free to plead guilty and raise these errors in defense of your ticket. I honestly do not know if you’ll prevail but you have nothing to lose (except your time in court).

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

  26. Michael Keneski February 4, 2012 10:46 am Reply

    Matt: I didnt see the red light camera on your list that is one Blue Point Road and Long Island Avenue. anway what happened to me today was unreal. I stopped and waited at the red light there as I never try to rush through lights. after waiting for 15-20 seconds I turned around to hand my toddler something, turned back around and saw the green left turn signal on and I instinctively went through. saw no flash but since it was a bright sunny day I obviously am screwed. saw no signs posted about the light. have you heard of anyone who actually won the case that way? also how often have you gotten responses like mine?

    Mike

  27. Bobby J Munoz January 16, 2012 8:41 pm Reply

    Hello:
    I got one of those tickets from the Red Light Program.I was driving on NY454@100 (suffolk ave)I was driving souht on 454 and whent to make a right in to suffolk ave so i made the right from this especial lane that they have to make a right turn only,the light was yellow turning to redor it may be red by 1 or 2 secons.My cuestion is (sorry for the wrong spelling im latino ja ja ja )the cuestion is do i have a chance to fight this ticket for the following reasons,1- there is no sign that warn the drivers that they are approachingan intersection that is equipped with PHOTO ENFORCEDMENT cameras,2-Theres no sing that stades no right turn on red, The importan one is that in back of the letter(ticket)that they send me it said on the back of that letter that those cameras only goes on on RED,on my videos it shows the recording or the camera when on on yellow for 2.0 second then it turn red.I think that it might be sufficient prove that there was some problem with the timing of the light do i have a chance ????and one more thing on the picture it tells you on what lane you are the picture of my case it said that im on lane #3 but im not on lane #3 there are 4 lane one to turn left two lanes in the center and im on the 4th one thast the one to make a right turn do i have a chance to beat this ticket…. Thank you

    • Matthew Weiss January 16, 2012 10:50 pm Reply

      Bobby,

      You have a chance but not a good one. If I had to guess, I would bet you will lose. With that said, give it a shot and report back how you make out.

      Best,

      Matthew Weiss

  28. Danielle January 10, 2012 7:53 pm Reply

    Hello,

    I received a violation in the mail today (Jan 10), violation occurred on July 6. (This is for 111/495 going north, turning on to the service road for the LIE. Don’t think this is on your list yet). It’s for an illegal right on red. First, after watching the video, my not stopping before turning is debatable. Second, this is at an intersection that I have made a right on red at twice a week since July 6. This makes me think that there are potentially more notices coming in the mail for, potentially, 7 more months.

    Not sure if there is signage at the intersection, but how can I prove what was or wasn’t there in July?

    • Matthew Weiss January 10, 2012 9:47 pm Reply

      Danielle,

      First see what is there now. You can, then, send a Freedom Of Information Action request to the Suffolk County Department of Transportation inquiring about signage at this location in July.

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

  29. tommyboy January 8, 2012 6:05 pm Reply

    The cameras do not have free medical, free dental.and disability benefits when they break and no early retirement and very high pension payouts. They are replaceing the traffic cops right under their noses and they don’t realize it.

  30. Sandra January 6, 2012 8:54 pm Reply

    I got a ticket dated May 28, 2011 which I just received 2 days ago. There was NO signage at this intersection. This seems like entrapment………….

  31. rrjr51 January 5, 2012 9:15 pm Reply

    the people had no chance to vote on this law – i guess new york government wants to run everything – no voting allowed anymore! so lets put cameras on all cars and ticket them for every possible infraction – then the government can support their huge pension plans. when does it stop!

  32. Lisa January 3, 2012 8:11 pm Reply

    I just received my first red light ticket on Dec. 31st. The incident took place on May 29th. Seven months later? How far backlogged are they? Seven months just seems ridiculous.

    • Matthew Weiss January 3, 2012 9:54 pm Reply

      Lisa,

      Relatively, seven month is actually around average. Some courts take 2 (or more) years to schedule cases. Further, there is not statute of limitations for prosecuting traffic tickets in New York.

      Matthew Weiss

  33. Steve December 30, 2011 11:01 am Reply

    Dear Traffic Lawyer,

    I recently had a minor traffic accident at an intersection in Suffolk County that contains a red light camera. The driver of the other vehicle failed to stop before making a right turn on red and this contributed to the accident. I have no idea if a citation was issued. Is it possible to get a copy of the video from this camera at the time of the accident to help me prove liability?

    • Matthew Weiss December 30, 2011 8:17 pm Reply

      Steve,

      Try sending a Freedom Of Information Law (FOIL) request. Contact the court for the appropriate address. By law, you are entitled to receive this information.

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

  34. Sean December 21, 2011 12:37 pm Reply

    Hello, I recently was traveling to my sister’s house in Holbrook at night and stopped at 27 and Johnson avenue on the eastbound side. As I stopped, the light flashed. This was despite being about three feet behind the stop line. I even got out of the car to check. If a ticket is issued, I am determined to fight it, however I was wondering if there is any preparation I should do beforehand.

    I noticed a line of tar running under my front wheels. It looks like a crack was plugged running straight across the road. I’m curious as to whether the camera might be calibrated to use that line instead of the stop line. Should I photograph the intersection?

    This was on Saturday December 17th between 11:00 and 11:45 PM.

  35. alert December 21, 2011 12:04 am Reply

    I was waiting at the corner of Veterans Highway (rt, 454, not rt. 347) and Suffolk Avenue in Islandia. (headed northbound) tonight. I was headed to Port Jefferson. A truck was in the right turn lane when I decided that I would probably be better off turning right (I think Suffolk becomes Old Nicholls road here). As I pulled into the right-turn lane, a light flashed (the light was red for N/B traffic). I then made a “right on red” (I probably did not come to a full stop but I was going VERY slowly and had been at a complete stop for quite a while). As I proceeded to make my right-hand turn there was a second flash of light.

    Is two flashes while making a “right on red” an indication of an impending ticket?

    • Matthew Weiss December 21, 2011 8:40 am Reply

      Alert,

      Yes, the two flashes are an indication that a ticket is impending. If you didn’t come to a complete stop (all 4 wheels stopped moving) then it was not a legal right on red turn.

      Matthew Weiss

  36. Bob December 20, 2011 6:17 pm Reply

    We have not heard from those who went to court to object to their ticket. Were they successful?

  37. PD December 7, 2011 10:43 am Reply

    What about hearsay? You have the right to question your accuser, right? Do they get away with this because it’s a “civil” case? Thanks!

  38. sandra November 21, 2011 4:19 pm Reply

    i will lose a day of work which is worth more than $25 which is why it’s great scam. shouldn’t the burden of proof be on them.

  39. sandra November 21, 2011 2:54 pm Reply

    I only rec’d an overdue notice and never the original notice. now they want an additional $25. I called and they cannot waive the fee and was told I can go to court to fight the late fee. how can they legally charge me a late fee for something I never received and they can’t prove? if they can only charge one late fee i can now wait to pay until i need to re-register my car right? i’ve seen others with the same issue, only getting the overdue notice, it’s a great scam for a colorado company. they claim to send my notice, never send it and get half of the $25 late fee. how is this legal, i still don’t get it.

    • Matthew Weiss November 21, 2011 2:56 pm Reply

      Sandra,

      I would fight the ticket and explain why you don’t owe the late charge. Make them prove that they mailed you an original notice that you ignored by producing proof of mailing. You have nothing to lose.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  40. Jen November 12, 2011 9:03 pm Reply

    Hello,

    I was recently involved in a motor vehicle accident. I strongly believe the individual who plowed into my car and the car next to me ran a red light. The police did not issue a ticket to the driver. Any way I can get a copy of those red light pictures? The insurance companies are taking their time trying to assign fault….I figured the red light cam could be my saving grace. Thanks!

    • 888redlight November 13, 2011 8:20 pm Reply

      Jen,

      If there was, in fact, a red light camera at this intersection then you can try and obtain a copy of the photos. You should take a Freedom of Information Action request to the administrator of the Suffolk County Red Light Program.

      I hope this helps. Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  41. Jim November 6, 2011 2:56 pm Reply

    These cameras have created a situation in which people who know about them cut through the gas station on the corner to avoid the intersection altogether. I nearly get killed every time I fill up with gas now that the traffic pattern has shifted from the street to the gas station. They may attempt to fix one problem, but are creating a far more dangerous problem by shifting rush hour traffic through an area full of pedestrians. Why haven’t they thought this through before putting us all at risk?

    • 888redlight November 7, 2011 8:48 am Reply

      Jim,

      Interesting (and scary) point.

      Avoiding an intersection IS a 2-point moving violation.

      Matthew Weiss

  42. John 1st time November 3, 2011 12:09 pm Reply

    well i just got 1. service rd (lie) and commack rd, hmm i agree with matt most ppl cant drive as it is, but in my case construction on the LIE was posted closed exit 50 to 53 ,, ha ha 50 to 56 and drop dead traffic, as i came over the hill the rt lane says rt turn only, now try and get over with a truck,me first syndrome, no 1 gives way, signal on, as no 1 lets me get over, just to find the green is less than 17 sec’s and the yellow on video proves 3 sec’s , i believe the law is @ 40 MPH as stated and posted and the speed i was going on the ticket info, the minimum time for a 40 mile an hr zone is 4.5 sec’s, the proof is in the video that they sent me, just to stop 500ft ahead and have ppl cut me off to get a better position ?
    The next light at which i hit, i had plenty of time to time the cycles , and again 17 sec green or less and 3 sec yellow. TRAP ?or not ?
    and just for fun you would think the cops sitting at the exit ramps behind the barriors would be controlling the traffic at these lights, to just improve traffic flow, not like they arent getting paid. And fianally no sign posted that i seen, but kinda dangerous to go and take pic’s when ppl drive like nut’s if you want to risk your life standing on the service road, A little trip info,, small box truck , left new hyde park 10 pm to exit 62 12:25 nice waste of gas, time, tax payer dollars and just more unneeded stress. The fact is can’t really stomp on the brakes not wanting a pipe or something through the back of my head or expensive equipment damaged to satisfy a 3 second yellow light not designed for a 40 mile per hour speed limit.
    SO fight it or not????
    Facts; no camera sign posted, 3 second yellow, Green light 17 sec’s or less, my speed exactly 40 MPH on ticket, heavy traffic.

    • 888redlight November 3, 2011 12:12 pm Reply

      John,

      It’s up to you to decide whether to fight it (or not). I can tell you that it is very tough to beat these tickets and the fine is minimal.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  43. Doug November 1, 2011 2:43 am Reply

    Matt-
    I received a summons in which I plan to fight in court. The details are not necessary.
    However, after reading all the messages here by people complaining about the tickets they receive, led me to two thoughts for these complainers. One- you’re not as good a driver as you say you are, otherwise you wouldn’t be getting these summonses. I
    “I stopped”, “the ground was wet”, WAH, WAH, WAH !!! Bunch if babies. Two- sadly, most of the complainers here have NYS driver licenses. You know what the laws are when it comes to driving….obey them and you won’t be grasping at straws for a defense. Want to cripple the red light program? STOP AT THE LIGHT. For those who turned right on red and received a summons? Read the NYS VTL. It says you must stop and proceed when safe to do so. The problem that everyone here has is that laws are being enforced where there were very rarely enforced and now you are all crying. Grow up and drive responsibly.
    Matt is right, pay the fines…. Because you are all guilty !!!
    Can’t wait until the speed cameras come and the bitching gets even worse

    • 888redlight November 1, 2011 9:08 am Reply

      Doug,

      Thanks for submitting your comment.

      One thing is for sure … the red light cameras work.. I’ve noticed at the ones that I regularly pass that motorists are extra careful to stop at them.

      Matthew Weiss

  44. K Spooner October 28, 2011 9:28 am Reply

    On the one hand Matt may be correct in advising many to simply pay their fine. It would be more convenient for those nabbed by the traffic cameras to submit payment. And it certainly would be more convenient for the county and for the company to which the county outsourced this “safety” surveillance practice. However, I couldn’t disagree more with Matt’s implied and explicit claims. To be clear it is not useless to fight back. Of course pay the fine at the end so that you can keep your car on the road, but you can certainly muck things up a bit by opting to have a hearing—even if you know that you will most certainly lose. Also you may submit your views to your local and county newspapers for publication—and just keep submitting them. Call your local representatives to the county and the county executive and share your views—and do this frequently. Find out the name of the private company (must be public information, since our taxes and fines are paying for it) and call them with your views—and do this frequently. Get your friends and family members to do the same. At the end of the day we have the power with our vote (hopefully they don’t curb this too). I know many of you can come up with even more cleaver ways to throw a wrench into this practice.

    Simply because something is the law doesn’t mean it is right or just and that it must remain law. I can think of many historical and relatively current examples on both changes to and elimination of laws—some changes for the better and some for the worse, but they changed. It is important however that we don’t confuse or conflate the unjust presence of the traffic cameras with real social and economic injustices. We don’t have a right to drive, it is a privilege. Admittedly so, for many living in the suburbs or in a rural setting the only way to get to our employment—if you’re employed—is by car. Not having a car would create a great economic heartache for many.

    In addition to the fact that many of us need our cars to survive (public transportation is sorely lacking), the traffic cameras are a form of punitive surveillance that are a symptom of something much larger. We now live in a vast hyper-surveillance society. And related to the growth of “security and safety” companies, our public monies are being siphoned to these for-profit companies who spend a great deal of time convincing our elected officials that we need them.

    One of the many problems to this arrangement is that there is nobody who can be held accountable by us. Another problem with this arrangement is that it always, yes always cost the tax payer much more. Again, sadly, even this situation is a symptom of something much larger.

    Matt also mistakenly assumes that traffic cameras are, at least currently, the only way that Suffolk County can collect revenue. If we remove the cameras, he contends, we must then subject our public programs (education, all public works programs, fire departments, etc.) to financial cuts. We mustn’t ignore the anti-democratic (anti-people) thinking behind such an assumption and the unintended and very dangerous practices that may follow. Punitive approaches to revenue building almost certainly will lend itself to abuses in these practices. I think we can come up with a far fairer approach to raising revenues. For those making $250,000 and hire should pay a larger percentage of federal income tax. Then let’s distribute the money to the states and counties. Not, I assure you, a new idea. An idea, in fact, that worked for many decades preceding 1980.

    • 888redlight October 28, 2011 10:43 am Reply

      K Spooner,

      Thanks for sharing your views and thoughtful suggestions. Your idea of lobbying for repeal is well founded. In fact, in Los Angeles, they recently repealed their red camera laws.

      In terms of expending efforts to fight these tickets, I never tell anyone how he or she should spend their time. I just know for me personally, it is not worth it. The adage of picking and choosing your battles works for me.

      Best,

      Matthew Weiss

  45. roufus October 25, 2011 4:12 pm Reply

    Hi,
    Just paid my first traf cam red light ticket. What’s burning me is a recollection that the NYS VTL requires a Peace Officer to witness and issue a summons for a violation of law.
    Is that not still part of the state law?
    Roufus

    • 888redlight October 26, 2011 1:28 pm Reply

      Roufus,

      For a red light camera ticket, a police officer does not have to witness the violation.

      Matthew Weiss

  46. Joe Smith October 18, 2011 2:41 pm Reply

    I recieved a ticket in the mail because I went through a red light. The reason I went throught the light was because the car in front of me just broke down 30 feet before light and placed there hazzards on. I went to go around the car and another car changed lanes right near me, I was distracted by him. Before I realized it, the light turned red for a second or two and I went through it. I intend on fighting this in court, my only fear is that if I pay the ticket the way it stands now I do not get any points on my license since its a video ticket. If I fight and lose the case in court am I in danger of getting points on my license?

    • 888redlight October 18, 2011 9:14 pm Reply

      Joe,

      You will not get points on your license for a red light camera ticket. However, your distraction defense will likely not be successful to beat this ticket.

      Matthew Weiss

  47. Jamilet O. October 5, 2011 9:09 pm Reply

    I received my first red light camera ticket and I don’t think I did anything wrong. There are two issues:
    1. I made a right turn at the red light (Ocean Ave. & I495 Service Rd.) BUT there was no “NO TURN ON RED” sign anywhere! I make the same right turn every day on the red light just like everyone else. As far as I knew, you can make a right turn at a red light as long as there aren’t any signs restricting you to do so. In the video, you can clearly see that I slowed down (brake lights came on) and I yielded the right-of-way. So is the grounds to fight the ticket?
    2. Also, as many others have experienced, I got this citation for the first time yesterday yet it claims that payment is overdue since the original citation was sent last month! That is not true because I check my mail everyday and I never saw anything like this.
    So now I’m being fined $75 for something in which I don’t think I did anything wrong. Should I call or write them and try to fight this?
    Thank you for your time and comments. Like everyone else I’m sure, I am really feeling the pinch of the economy and I don’t need things like this happening right now.

    • 888redlight October 5, 2011 9:50 pm Reply

      Jamilet,

      You didn’t come to a complete stop so you are guilty. The law in New York is that you must stop BEFORE making a right on red. By “stop”, I mean that all 4 wheels stop moving. Slowing down and yielding are not enough.

      In terms of the untimeliness, I would ask the court for proof of mailing for the first notice to confirm that it was properly sent.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  48. Rob S October 3, 2011 10:37 pm Reply

    This is the second time I have gotten a red light camera ticket (my wife driving lol) that claims it is already past due, and thus, tacking on an additional $25 late fee. This is the second time that I never received the initial ticket. Both tickets were for Suffolk County. Now, missing one ticket as junk mail is plausible, but two of them ? I don’t think so. Rather, I think I smell the workings of a rat. Can others please comment on whether this has happened to you ? Did the first mailing you receive claim that the fine was late and add the late fee ? Thank you for your comments.

    • sandra November 21, 2011 8:06 pm Reply

      To Rob S. this happened to me too and i check all mail including juck mail and know that i never rec’d this original notice. it appears the profits are split between suffolk and colorado co and they keep half the profits. don’t send the first notice and make an extra $12.50, what a scam. i’m researching if i have any options.

  49. fran October 3, 2011 1:00 pm Reply

    I just got a seatbelt ticket and phone ticket on southern state parkway is this a moving violation in october of 2011? trooper said it wasnt, my daughter said it is. any way to fight these?

    • 888redlight October 3, 2011 1:19 pm Reply

      The cell phone ticket IS a moving violation. It carries 2 points. We recommend therefore that you plead not guilty (to both) and fight it.

      Matthew Weiss

  50. Elena September 22, 2011 1:40 pm Reply

    Hi I was wondering if I got a tiket, I saw the light go off, but I stopped my car before the light. Does this mean I have a ticket or no?

    • 888redlight September 22, 2011 3:13 pm Reply

      Elena,

      Not sure. It depends how far into the intersection you went.

      Hope you don’t get one, however.

      Fingers crossed.

      Matthew Weiss

  51. MPB September 8, 2011 11:26 am Reply

    The following is typical of drivers who don’t have a clue and quite freighting that he has a valid license to drive using this logic. Bottom line – it’s your responsibility by LAW to drive UNDER CONTROL for all situations- period.

    I recently received a red light ticket but was curious if weather could be a reason for the infraction. It had been raining out and I found it safer to continue through the intersection rather than stop quickly at 55mph. The red light time was 4 seconds… Your thoughts?

    • 888redlight September 8, 2011 1:37 pm Reply

      MPB,

      Thanks for sharing this info. You are right, drivers must be in control and should not travel faster than conditions permit. We see this often with tailgating. Motorists should leave enough room when trailing another vehicle in order to stop safely (i.e., 1 car length for every 10 mph).

      Matthew Weiss

  52. Nick September 4, 2011 9:41 am Reply

    I did not receive any red light tickets yet but I’m sure I will. I started boycotting stores where red light cameras are or in route and letting the stores know this. I’m not going to pay $60 for an item that only cost $10. If more people started doing this the stores would start putting pressure on the county. Loss revenue = loss taxes. So if a new camera pops up near or in route to a mall, tweet the message and find a different mall. Stores and malls follow twitter and will get the message. For example, a famous rock star was not let on a airline plane because he was asked to pull his pants all the way up and he replied ” don’t you have anything better to do?”. He tweeted it and the airline customer service got him on a flight ASAP. The news Media also follows twitter. If more people started doing this, maybe things might change, if not get ready for speed cameras.

  53. steven September 2, 2011 1:55 pm Reply

    At the LIE service road (east bound) and Commack Road, there is no sign on Commack Road or at the intersection warning of a camera or light. I came up from Commack Road and made a rt on red after making sure the intersection was clear. Should I fight this or pay the money. Thank you

    • 888redlight September 2, 2011 11:44 pm Reply

      Steven,

      If you did not come to a complete stop (all 4 wheels stopped moving), then pay the ticket. You can watch a video of your offense by going to the website listed on the ticket.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  54. Laura September 2, 2011 1:42 pm Reply

    I received a Red Light Camera violation at the corner of Jericho Tpke & Townline Rd West bound. I rarely travel this way & remember the night & I am certain that I stopped at the light then made the right turn. I remember seeing the flashes from the camera & thought why is it flashing. I also know someone else who swears they also made a complete stop but the video does not show this for either of us. I know with the internet/technology sometimes there are delays and jumps in video. Is there a possibility that there was a malfunction? I am certain that I stopped how can I prove it? I did not see any notice/posting of the cameras as mentioned by a previous poster.

    • 888redlight September 2, 2011 1:54 pm Reply

      Laura,

      A mal-function is possible (although not likely). If you are confident that you stopped fully for this light, then plead not guilty and take it to trial. The People will have to prove its case against you at that time.

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

  55. TG September 1, 2011 4:06 pm Reply

    how long do you have to stop for a right on red: just got a ticket in Nassau County and in viewing the video I did stop: called and the rep said that the two pictures were three seconds apart and I was turned by the second so that I didn’t stop sufficiently

    again: I highly doubt that a human would have given me that ticket

    • 888redlight September 2, 2011 1:20 pm Reply

      TG,

      The law requires that you make a complete stop at a red light PRIOR to making a right on red. This means that all 4 wheels come to a stopped position.

      I hope this helps. Good luck fighting this ticket.

      Matthew Weiss

  56. ED September 1, 2011 2:53 am Reply

    I can’t go into details but i do remember reading that they recently had to remove cameras in California after some injustice was found. You say that they are here to stay in New York but there has to be a way for the people of New York to get someone to fight this and win here.

    • 888redlight September 1, 2011 12:23 pm Reply

      Ed,

      Yes, in Los Angeles (and Houston), the red light programs were discontinued. The reason in LA was due to economics. The City wasn’t getting a larger enough share of the revenue, many motorists were refusing to pay the fine, and the courts were reluctant to enforce the tickets.

      However, in New York, they are big money makers and, therefore, I am not optimistic that they will be removed. The state and cities need the money and there doesn’t appear to be a politician (at least right now) willing to stand up and fight red light cameras.

      Matthew Weiss

  57. JC August 26, 2011 11:48 pm Reply

    I actually don’t believe these cameras increase safety. When it is known a red light camera exists, when a light turns yellow, people basically have 2 options that present themselves often: 1) stop short to be sure not to go into the intersection, and hope the person behind you is paying attention and doesn’t rear end you trying to make it through the light; or 2) gun it, to try and get completely through the intersection before it turns red, because of the variability of yellow light lengths.

    An earlier post mentioned the idea of a countdown clock visible to motorists, and if the county was TRULY concerned with motorist safety, and not just making revenue, then they would seriously consider this idea.

    • 888redlight August 27, 2011 9:22 am Reply

      JC,

      I’m glad you like me “countdown clock” idea. I know it helps for those times when I approach the one near my house.

      I am planning on writing a post about whether red light cameras reduce accidents. Standby.

      Matthew Weiss

  58. christine August 22, 2011 12:11 pm Reply

    Hi,

    I received a notice of liability for making a right on red. this was at the intersection of commack rd/townline rd and jericho turnpike. there is no “no turn on red” sign so i called up the number to ask why i was receiving the ticket. he told me it was because i did not come to full 3 second stop before turning. to be honest, i never even knew of this law and i’m at that intersection about once a day so im worried im going to get even more tickets!

    my question is: is it NY State law that a sign warning the presence of the camera be posted at the intersection? i have read online that there HAS to be a sign and if there is not a sign you can fight the ticket….so i called back and the guy told me that no, it is not required in NY State to post a sign. this goes against everything else i have read. if you can shed some light on this issue, i’d appreciate it. then i will know how to proceed. if it matters, this took place in suffolk county on 7/30/11. thanks in advance!

    • 888redlight August 22, 2011 5:52 pm Reply

      Christine,

      It is not the law in New York that a warning sign be present. The Suffolk County red light program rules state, however, that there should be a sign advising motorists of the presence of the cameras. You can plead not guilty and make this argument. Bring multiple photos of the intersection showing that no signs are present at or to the approach to the intersection.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  59. Paul Bay Shore August 16, 2011 4:40 pm Reply

    I just saw on Channel 7 Eyewitness news that the this pathetic thief is not generating enough revenue, for the county, because the revenue split with the camera company is 50/50. I got a ticket at 495 and rt111. I watched the video and I did a rolling stop, so I’m going to pay the fine, funny getting a ticket when I had my signal on.

    Oh and the politicians will be voting to either scrap the program (YEA RIGHT THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL VOTE), or try to get a bigger share of the revenue from the camera company. So call your representative (they might listen). I can’t wait for mine to come knocking on my door for my vote. If he voted for the camera nonsense I will slam my door in his face.

    • 888redlight August 16, 2011 4:44 pm Reply

      Paul,

      In Los Angeles County, they recently discontinued their red light camera ticket. They too weren’t making enough money.

      Fingers crossed and Suffolk (and Nassau) will follow suit.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Paul Bay Shore August 16, 2011 5:55 pm Reply

        Hey Matt,
        I never expected that the rev split was 50-50.. That is insane, but you know NY pols… No matter what the public wants, the PUBLIC doesn’t get.. Hopefully I’m wrong but nothing politicans do surprise me anymore…

  60. John K August 8, 2011 8:02 pm Reply

    I went through a yellow making a left off the service road of the lie. I haven’t received anything yet, it’s been almost 2 months. Could the car behind me stop past the line and trigger the camera?

    • 888redlight August 8, 2011 11:39 pm Reply

      John K,

      I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. Yes, a car behind you can trigger the camera. However, unless the photos show you running a red light, the motorist behind you will not result in you be issued a ticket.

      Matthew Weiss

  61. P Queen August 7, 2011 7:58 pm Reply

    If I live out of state – do I need to pay a camera ticket? What are the repercussions for not paying?

    • 888redlight August 7, 2011 9:43 pm Reply

      P Queen,

      Out-of-state residents are required to pay their red light camera tickets. If you don’t, a judgment can be entered against you which can impair your credit rating.

      Matthew Weiss

  62. Bryan August 5, 2011 12:29 pm Reply

    I made a right on red but there was no “no turn on red” sign present. I read in a previous comment that you have to come to a full stop before making a right on red, is that true? I haven’t heard of that before. I slowed down to like 5mph and made sure there wasn’t any cars coming. Anyway, I want to get out of it, these damn cameras are a nuisance.

    • 888redlight August 6, 2011 7:33 am Reply

      Bryan, if there is no sign prohibiting a right on red, you may turn right at a red light after making a complete stop in all areas of New York State except New York City (where rights on red are prohibited).

      Slowing down to 5 mph is not helpful. Only those making a full stop (all 4 wheels stop moving) may legally make a right on red.

      Matthew Weiss

  63. Bob Reynolds August 4, 2011 8:10 am Reply

    I was riding a motorcycle with a group of 2 other riders. I was on the LIE service Rd, west bound. My tire was literally inches from the white line when the light turned red. 0.3 seconds after the light changed. The video shows another car behind me, not far behind. Of course I got the ticket. Is there no grey area here? No safety issues to consider?
    Is there a standard as to how long the yellow light should be lit? I see an inconsistancy in times between intersections.
    Would it be worth it for me to fight this ticket?
    I understand a few states have deemed these cameras unconstitutional.

    • 888redlight August 4, 2011 9:46 am Reply

      Bob,

      Unfortunately, I don’t think you will beat this ticket if you fight it. Traffic lights should remain in the yellow phase for, at least, 2 to 3 seconds.

      NY has not declared red light camera tickets un-constitutional (although you are free to advance this argument if you fight it).

      Either way, good luck with it.

      Matthew Weiss

  64. Tony July 31, 2011 2:49 pm Reply

    Can you get a ticket if your front tires are passed the white line waiting to make a right turn even though you did not go through a red light?

    • 888redlight July 31, 2011 3:38 pm Reply

      Tony,

      Great question. This is the type of ticket which I would fight. If the video shows you stopped (albeit slightly passed the cross walk), you should argue that you did not disobey the red light.

      Good luck with this one.

      Matthew Weiss

  65. Joann Reilly July 28, 2011 7:28 pm Reply

    I just received a Suffok Red light violation – location: Route 110 @ Conklin Street, Farmingdale . it appears I made a right on red without stopping. This particular day I had my injured cat in his kennel in the car. if you look at the video I am at a consistent slow speed approaching the intersection and my car turns right as the light turns red. I feel this is so unfair, I know they dont know that I didnt stop and was going slow because of my injured pet, but they can clearly see I wasnt trying to speed to make the light, just cautiously turning. there are no signs, so I will take your advice as previously stated in your posts, to take pictures of the intersection. What do you think?
    thanks!

  66. Matt July 21, 2011 7:06 pm Reply

    Hey There..So i got my first Red light camera snap at the Intersection of Rt 110 & Great Neck Road..BUT question being after watching the video repeadtedly the light changed Red ..as I crossed the intersection …literally with 0.4 of a second red time..here are the stats form the video:
    Yellow Time: 4.2 sec Red Time: 0.4 sec

    Are they kidding me? How could I have come to a safe stop without being hit from behind? Worth fighting or just pay the 50 and get on with life?

    • 888redlight July 21, 2011 10:56 pm Reply

      Matt,

      Pay the $50. Believe it or not, four seconds for a yellow light is not unreasonable.

      Fortunately, this ticket carries no points and will not affect your auto insurance rates.

      Best,

      Matthew Weiss

  67. santo July 18, 2011 6:59 pm Reply

    I just got a ticket for red light turning, the funny thing is that the photo shows half the car is already after the white line so the question is how soon they start taking the photo to get you?

    • 888redlight July 18, 2011 9:31 pm Reply

      Santo,

      There should be a photo of your car before the crosswalk with the light red and a second photo of your car in the intersection with the light still red. If the first photo shows you half in already, you have a good defense (i.e., that I entered on a yellow), in my opinion.

      Matthew Weiss

  68. George July 18, 2011 4:36 pm Reply

    Just got one of these in the mail. My daughter made a right on red. So, some company in Colorado is trying to extort $50 from me.

    I wrote and told them that I would NEVER pay the fine as it is total bullshit. I’ll let ya know how it turns out. I reccomend everyone fight rather than roll over.

    There are constitutional issues here too. Like the right to face your accuser. You get tickets from cops, not machines.

    Safety my ass. It’s revenue there’re after and the red light company gets part of the fine. That means it’s a scam foisted on us under the color of law. A scam is a scam no matter the color.

    • 888redlight July 19, 2011 2:02 am Reply

      George,

      Good luck and please let us know if you are successful. You are not the only one looking to try and beat a red light camera ticket.

      Thanks

      Matthew Weiss

  69. Margot Laskowska July 18, 2011 2:48 pm Reply

    I received red light ticket where after a full stop, which you can see on the captured photo, I made a right turn at the intersection (which is also shown at their photos), there was no sign “Right turn not allowed on the red light”. I am planning to fight it and bring photos of the intersection to proove it. Do I need to proove that the right turn on red light is allowed in Suffold County, and where I can find this information? Thank you very much.

    • 888redlight July 18, 2011 9:32 pm Reply

      Margot,

      You do not have to prove that rights on red are permitted in Suffolk County (unless prohibited by sign) as the judge will know this already.

      Make sure you came to a FULL STOP before fighting this ticket. All four wheels must cease moving before you can make the right turn.

      Good luck fighting this one.

      Matthew Weiss

  70. Alyssa July 15, 2011 7:42 pm Reply

    I made a right on red at an intersection where there are NO signs- I make a right at that intersection everyday. The video shows my car and 2 others making a right on red. I am trying to fight the ticket. I mailed it in weeks ago and I got an overdue notice in the mail. Should I now mail that?

    • 888redlight July 15, 2011 10:05 pm Reply

      Alyssa,

      If you made a right on red without completely stopping, then I wouldn’t bother fighting it. If you stopped fully, then give it a shot and include the lack of signage defense.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  71. JH July 11, 2011 3:05 pm Reply

    ok but how much time do you have when the light turns yellow to red if you turn when it’s yellow and it changes to red?

  72. JH July 11, 2011 1:46 pm Reply

    Is there a camera light by 454 east left turning lane onto lakeland ave in Ronkonkoma and if so how much time do I have? I turned left on friday whne the light was yellow abd turning red will I get a ticket?

    • 888redlight July 11, 2011 2:31 pm Reply

      JH,

      I do not know if there is a camera at this location but it is easy to figure out. Just look to see if they are any polls set about about 25 feet from the intersection (or at night, look for the flashes as the light changes).

      Matthew Weiss

  73. Jay D June 27, 2011 11:40 am Reply

    There are Red Light Cameras on the NSR and SSR of the LIE by Commack Road at both intersections. I exited off the LIE westbound going to my office and the person in front of me rolled thru the right hand turn to go northbound and the light flashed….that is a tricky corner, and you really do have to stop completely..so hes getting a ‘love letter’ i guess….also eastbound is very sensitive to the slightest over the line.

  74. JD June 18, 2011 11:06 am Reply

    I am aware that a red light camera violation IS NOT a moving violation. However if you fight the violation does it then become attached to your driving record.

    • 888redlight June 18, 2011 11:17 am Reply

      JD,

      No. A conviction (either by plea or after trial) to a red light camera violation does not appear on your driving record.

      Matthew Weiss

  75. Ken Spiegel June 13, 2011 6:51 pm Reply

    I use a Garmin GPS. I purchased a red light camera program to help warn me when I approach one. Its not perfect but it is a help when traveling out of state. Here in Suffolk County NY it has to be updated every week.

    Have the cameras worked to reduce the amount of accidents at certain intersections – YES. The intersection of RT112 and Horseblock Road seems to have less major accidents. Not sure about minor rear end accidents due to people SLAMMING on their brakes.

    When you update your list of red light intersections can you also list the GPS coordinates. They can then be entered into the GPS which uses an excel program.

  76. John June 13, 2011 6:22 pm Reply

    It is a sad fact that this program has little to do with making us safer and lot to do with making us poorer and somebody else richer. Rear collisions are increased and people are trying to avoid these intersections not to feel like a horse in a photo finish as somebody else posted here. Contractors like Lockheed Martin are laughing all the way to the bank. Doesn’t a red light go on in your head when the plea you are sending goes to Denver, Colorado for Suffolk Country Red Light Safety Program ?

  77. Kyle June 8, 2011 10:22 pm Reply

    Matt,

    Any luck fighting this in the Appellate courts based on the Fairfax Virginia brief. Does the California rulings of hearsay & admissibility of evidence hold any weight as precedence?

    Can a direct challenge to the constitutional issues at hand be made to the attorney general?

    • 888redlight June 9, 2011 6:27 am Reply

      Ralph,

      Virginia and California law does not have any binding effect in New York. The arguments raised in these states could be used as persuasive authority, however.

      When the constitutionality of a law is at issue, the Attorney General should be notified. However, I doubt that they will get involved in support of overturning red light camera tickets. If you try, please let me know what happens.

      Best,

      Matthew Weiss

  78. fred June 4, 2011 6:59 am Reply

    I drive a handy cap bus with wheel chairs I go in places that have these red light camers I hope mdv understands that a bus cant not stop on a dime for these lights. With out making these wheel chairs fly across the bus and I also have to worrie about getting hit in the rear by another car/truck. Even if you go 30mph-45mph the back of the bus becomes a roll a coast . They really should be told about this. I think they have no conciderations for a handycap bus. All they want is the money. fred

    • 888redlight June 4, 2011 9:09 am Reply

      Fred,

      If the wheel chairs are flying across when you abruptly stop, I highly recommend that you get someone to secure them. This presents an even more dangerous condition.

      Matthew Weiss

  79. C Sanford June 2, 2011 3:07 pm Reply

    Rocky Point had a red light camera system installed in March 2011 at the junction of Rte. 25A and Hallock Landing (N) and Rocky Point Rd (S). This spot has east-west facing cameras that bag only violators traveling east-west along Rte 25A. It does not nab north-south violators. One day I decided to spend some time watching to see how it worked, which is when I discovered it ignored N-S offenders. I was impressed with its accuracy as even if a car went late through an orange and the light turned red before the vehicle was fully through the intersection, it ignored that vehicle. The flash tripped only if the car passed fully over the white line on a red. It nabbed a west facing offender turning right onto Hallock Landing after the light had turned red (it’s posted no right turn on red).

    • 888redlight June 3, 2011 7:28 am Reply

      C Sanford,

      Thanks for the info. With help like yours, we are building a comprehensive list.

  80. steve June 1, 2011 4:40 pm Reply

    After mapping out the locations of the Red Light cameras, they are basically concentrated HERE:
    1- Along the LIE service roads…
    2- Along Route 347 from the courts to Route 112….
    3 – Along Route 112…
    4- Along Route 25 from Nesconset to Coram

    **IT FEELS LIKE IM DRIVING AROUND LONG ISLAND THROUGH BOOBY TRAPS!!! I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU, BUT I AM GOING TO AVOID TRAVELING THESE SECTIONS OF ROADS FROM NOW ON! I THINK IM GETTING AN ULCER WORRYING ABOUT THESE TICKETS!! – STEVE

  81. WTF May 31, 2011 8:41 pm Reply

    Red light camera is at interesection of Rt 112 and Woodside Ave (CR99) in Patchogue; Make sure you make a complete stop before turning right on red from Northbound 112 onto Woodside Ave (CR99)!

  82. Steve May 30, 2011 1:39 am Reply

    Another camera is up along Rt. 347 at Old Willets Path…. ..We will look back on this one day in the future and realize these cameras are the beginning of the end……….remember Colossus???

    • 888redlight May 30, 2011 9:05 pm Reply

      Steve, thanks for sharing this new location. You are right … it is hard to keep up with all the new red light camera locations.

  83. Don Cooper May 20, 2011 1:15 pm Reply

    At Rt 25 and Rt 110 I proceeded thru a green light. The traffic in front of me stopped, being backed up from the next light at NY ave, thereby trapping me in the intersection. The light turned red just before I got thru the intersection and I perceived a flash. Is this grounds for a ticket?

    • 888redlight May 21, 2011 9:44 pm Reply

      Don,

      Yes, you likely will receive a red light camera ticket. Stopping beyond the crosswalk is not a defense unfortunately. The law prohibits a motorist from entering an intersection against a red.

      With that said, I hope you are wrong and you do not receive a ticket.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  84. Steve Lawsden May 20, 2011 1:44 am Reply

    HI- Just wanted to add to the list of new cameras along Route 347…. In addition to the new ones on your list (Old Town Rd, Mark Tree Rd, Stony Brook Rd, and Route 25) there are also cameras at 347 @ Nichols Rd….. -Steve

    • 888redlight May 21, 2011 9:43 pm Reply

      Steve,

      Thanks for the additional locations. Readers of this blog and myself appreciate it.

      Matt

  85. dave May 7, 2011 6:40 pm Reply

    Dear Traffic Lawyer:

    I was traveling northbound on Deer Park Av. (Corner of Straight Path) I was in the turning lane. In the turning lane is a red arrow pointing left.

    My car rolled slightly past the white line but did not go through the light. I could still see the light in front of me. I would say my car rolled about a cars length past the white lines but was not blocking the intersection.

    I always though DMV traffic law does not consider that to be a red light violation.

    There is a red light camera on the right side of the road on the same side as the church.

    I did not see a flash but it was broad day light so you might not notice.

    Assuming Suffolk sends me a ticket in the mail is this case defendable considering I did not go through the light?

    • 888redlight May 8, 2011 10:50 am Reply

      Dave,

      If you receive a red light ticket for this maneuver, then you likely will be found guilty. You must stop BEFORE the stop line or cross walk to avoid such a ticket.

      Hopefully, however, you don’t get one. Good luck.

      Matthew Wess

  86. Linda April 20, 2011 8:14 pm Reply

    My son got a red light ticket on April 1st 2011…
    NY231 Deer Pk ave@ I-495 NSR-SB. He was making a right turn after a full stop.
    If there is NOT a no turn on red is it worth fighting. He dose not think there was a sign
    or a warning of a red light camera. Thanks for your time. The photo clearly shows him
    completing the right turn.

    • 888redlight April 21, 2011 10:11 pm Reply

      Linda,

      It’s probably not worth fighting but, if you want to be sure, tell you son to re-visit the intersection and check for signage. He should also check the website and watch the video of his “offense”.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  87. Arnold April 13, 2011 6:28 pm Reply

    Last Oct. 2010, at a Defensive Driving course [I take one every 3 yrs. for the insurance discount], the instructor told the class that when an emergency vehicle is stopped on the shoulder of the road, that you may NOT pass in the adjacent empty roadway lane, or you will get a ticket with a $700 fine!!! Obviously a police car with a dash mounted camera can record a passing car’s license plate like a red light camera can. There are new highway information signs that vaguely warn about passing a stopped emergency vehicle but they are not specific and I can’t find a complete written interpretation. Please explain. Thanks…

  88. Arnold April 13, 2011 6:12 pm Reply

    I was told by someone that his wife had made a rt. turn on a red light AFTER coming to a full stop at LIE north service road onto Commack Rd. at exit 52. A policeman tagged her for not stopping for a full 60 seconds before turning! Apparently a red light camera verified the time interval. Assuming that the story is true, is there such a traffic regulation requiring a 60 sec. stop for a red light turn? If so, when was it enacted?

    • 888redlight April 13, 2011 8:07 pm Reply

      Arnold,

      Absolutely not. The law is that all 4 wheels of your vehicle must come to a complete (i.e., dead) stop. Then you can make the right on red. Such a maneuver occurs in just a few seconds (and certainly not 60 seconds).

      By the way, failure to obey a red light is a 3-point ticket so it’s a good idea to make sure you “fully” stop.

      Matthew Weiss

  89. Henry poor April 13, 2011 12:49 pm Reply

    I read reciently that a right turn on red requires a three second stop, anything less can get you a ticket. I checked the NY state traffic website and found nothing to confirm this is it true. Is it?

    • 888redlight April 13, 2011 8:05 pm Reply

      Henry,

      No, the law is that all 4 wheels of your vehicle must come to a complete (i.e., dead) stop. Then you can proceed. I believe that this can occur in less than 3 seconds.

      By the way, failure to obey a stop sign is a 3-point ticket so it’s a good idea to make sure you “fully” stop.

      Matthew Weiss

  90. Laura Arena April 8, 2011 2:03 am Reply

    What about 4 way stop signs? They are the worst and they cause more accidents. I have watched people go 40-50 miles through a 4 way stop sign. I live in suffolk county and live on a dead end I also have road detectors and hazards signs on my property, but it will only be a matter of time before someone misses the turn and takes out my house. Long Island has a bunch of stupid idiots driving, young and old. Lord Hear My Prayers

  91. Laura Arena April 8, 2011 1:51 am Reply

    I want to know why I got a 2nd notice with a $25 fine attached for a ticket that was issued in October that I never received. And why was the address to send the ticket and fine not in New York State. Gotta love NY. Always outsourcing. I am surprised I did not have to send it to another country and pay shipping and handling.

  92. gleuis April 2, 2011 7:09 am Reply

    Is there a way to find the names of local legislaters that voted for these cameras? The public should begin a letter writing campaign with their co-workers,labor organizations,special interest groups etc. expressing our outrage of “Big Brother”reaching into our pockets for this soley monetary based initiative in these financially difficult times, and let them know it will cost them votes from individuals as well as groups in the future. Are there at least any local jobs being created by these installations ? or are we paying out of state workers to take this money home and support their local economies? This is the beginning of a futuristic wave of mass population control , think about it where will it go from here ? perhaps the movie Demolition Man is not really far fetched !!!!

    • 888redlight April 2, 2011 7:52 am Reply

      Gleius,

      That’s a good question but probably not necessary. A letter writing or petition campaign to your local politician should get their attention. In Arizona, public outrage over speeding ticket cameras led to their repeal. Politicians are sensitive to their constituents so an effective campaign might very spur action. Good luck!!

      Matt

  93. gq March 29, 2011 8:10 pm Reply

    I got ticket on right turn but I’m 95 percent sure their wasn’t no turn on red sign I live all the way in Nassau county close to queens

    • 888redlight March 29, 2011 10:50 pm Reply

      GQ

      A red light camera ticket carries no points and only a $50 fine. So it sounds like you should just pay the ticket.

      Matthew Weiss

  94. Eric March 29, 2011 8:00 pm Reply

    The red light cameras have been popping up all over Sunrise Highway in Suffolk County. Last week one was installed at the WB service road and Lakeland Ave. They are also on both service roads at Johnson Ave, Rte 112 and the EB service road, and just yesterday one was installed at Vets Hwy (NY454) and Broadway Ave.

    Yes, this is a big money maker for the county during tough times, but after seeing how many people run red lights here and risk innocent driver’s lives to save a minute or two, I applaud the action. Yes, there will be the rare instance where the ticket is not deserved, however if you are obeying the law, how can you be opposed to something that increases safety and generates revenue at the same time? Yes, I know the research shows an increase in rear end collision at intersections where the devices are installed, but research also shows a dramatic reduction in side impact collisions and therefore a significant reduction in fatalities. This is long overdue!!

  95. Pole on LI March 23, 2011 2:10 pm Reply

    They Just installed yesterday new cameras on Lakeland Ave and Sunrise Hwy in Bohemia. Also I’ve seen cameras on Rt 109 and New Hwy in North Lindenhurst. Well- maybe Suffolk Co. is going to cut taxes??? ;P

    • 888redlight March 23, 2011 9:13 pm Reply

      Pole on LI,

      Thanks for the heads- up. These red light cameras are popping up all over!

      Matthew Weiss

  96. Anthony Demet March 17, 2011 11:17 pm Reply

    http://autos.aol.com/article/red-light-camera-study-statistics/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl6%7Csec1_lnk3%7C206322

    Is food for thought here in NY. Where might we find the NYS regs for yellow light duration?

  97. bill March 16, 2011 11:07 am Reply

    just passed a work crew installing camera’s at rte25 (middle country rd) and Nicolls rd center reach (seldon) in suffolk country.
    also i am a member of an organization that escorts kia service men and veterans funerals. i am sure we are going to be caught in many red light camera’s. what happens in case of multi offences. thank you

    • 888redlight March 16, 2011 9:33 pm Reply

      Bill,

      I’m not sure but would think that being part of a funeral procession is a valid defense to a red light camera ticket.

      Matt

  98. JoJo March 12, 2011 8:58 am Reply

    I was on the 495 service rd heading east on the south side of rd & RT 112 when I got a ticket for light .The lights turn from yellow to red to fast thats how they make there money they say when you go on web site they give you 4 second but they dont & also my mom got a ticket there to she 72 yrs old she doesnt go throught yellow or red & she got one she was on RT 112 & that same service rd side. Its out of control now you have no privacy any more what are we like Russia

    • 888redlight March 14, 2011 2:01 am Reply

      Jojo,

      I no it is frustrating but these cameras are here to stay. If you see ANY yellow light, brake rather than accelerate. I can say that disobeying a red light is one of the most dangerous traffic violations in the book.

      Matt

  99. D March 11, 2011 8:46 pm Reply

    The person that was driving my car said she would go to court and tell them that she was driving my car . What happens in this situation, does the court then void my ticket and give her one instead? Or is the ticket still listed in my name and she pays the fine. I don’t want to bother going to court if the ticket remains my responsibility.

  100. D March 8, 2011 12:40 am Reply

    I don’t see how I can be held responsible if I wasn’t driving. Isn’t this red light ticket a moving violation? I’m not sure how the government can get away with this and you keep telling people to just pay the ticket, it’s just easier! Well before you know it all of our constitutional rights will be gone, it seems that nobody wants to take a stand on principle! Having cameras following our every move is very frightning and we as citizens need to stop this type of harassment by our government.
    I’d like to know how and when did we elect to have this type of intrusion? Did the State Assembly pass these unconstitutional laws or the county?
    What can we do as citizens to repeal such laws?
    Are the tickets that one accumulates kept in a file of some sort for future reference? I’m concerned that if I pay the ticket that it is an admission of guilt and can be used somehow possibly later on against me?
    I wasn’t driving, I plead not guilty and sent my ticket in. I was notified of a court date and feel as though my efforts were/are a waste of time because of what I read here.
    Where is it written that the registered owner is responsible? Don’t I have any way to fight this ticket? And it’s not about the $50.00 it’s the principle of the matter!

    • 888redlight March 10, 2011 8:19 am Reply

      D,

      Bad news. As the owner, you are responsible. The way that they get away with it is by not making this violation affect your driving license. It is very similar to a parking ticket. Bottom line, you will NOT win with “I wasn’t driving defense” for a red light camera ticket.

      • D March 11, 2011 8:47 pm Reply

        Even if I can prove that I was at work??

        • 888redlight March 14, 2011 1:53 am Reply

          D.

          If the car is visible on the photo/video and you own it, then you alibi is irrelevant. The owner is responsible REGARDLESS of who is driving the vehicle. I know you may not like the law, but that is what it is. Think of it like a parking ticket. The owner is always responsible for it.

          Matt

  101. terry March 3, 2011 4:40 pm Reply

    I just got one. It was received almost two months after it happened. I was on my way to my mother’s wake, which I can prove with funeral program and rememberance card. Do they ever dismiss on compassionate grounds?

    • 888redlight March 4, 2011 12:30 am Reply

      Yes, a funeral process is a good defense if the photo supports your claim.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

      • terry March 4, 2011 10:32 am Reply

        It wasn’t the actual burial procession. I was going out to the funeral home in Suffolk to be there before the first session of visiting to make sure all the preparations were done right. The picture times are 11:59:01 and 11:59:03.

  102. DJL March 2, 2011 3:35 pm Reply

    Hello,
    I have lost my red light violation ticket. I have the website as: http://www.public.cite-web.com/ but it requires a number and pin number that were on ticket which I do not have since I lost ticket. Is there a way for me to find this by putting in my license plate number?
    Thanks in advance.

  103. Greg March 1, 2011 7:16 pm Reply

    today i was traveling west on jericho turnpike at 5:06 pm and at that time goin west on jericho it is 100% impossible to see what so ever because of the sun blinding u and ur visability is down to about 10% than a normal 100% i couldnt see the traffic light an slowly was still goin down jericho not realizing it was a red light i went through. Can I fight back because that is 100% not my falt i had no visability what so ever

    • 888redlight March 4, 2011 12:40 am Reply

      Greg,

      Yes, you can try and beat it. Try and submit some prove that it was a sunny day and that you were blinded by the sun.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  104. Bon Koo February 24, 2011 4:42 pm Reply

    There is a one at the 25 a & larkfield
    I know this because I saw the camera and it’s flash.
    But there was no signs what-so-ever. I took a picture of surrounding area from multiple point where camera has been placed.
    Do you think this will help me get out of ticket?

    • 888redlight February 24, 2011 8:18 pm Reply

      Bon,

      The omission of a sign can very well help. The regulations require that a sign be posted at the intersection warning of the red light camera.

      Good luck fighting it.

      Matthew Weiss

  105. Harry Karatzia February 20, 2011 10:48 pm Reply

    If I can get a reply to this question?
    I heard from a reliable source (law student) that if you are within a maximum of twenty feet of the red light or nearest corner and go through it, you are within the zone of safety and therefore, not liable for any violations.
    Can someone verify this statement. Please e-mail with an answer asap.

  106. harvinder gujral February 8, 2011 3:01 pm Reply

    Is there an authority where we can complain about the working of the red light safety contractor.Since they probably are getting commission based on collections,they are bent upon applying the fines.
    I did not get the citation but got the overdue notice.When I sent them a letter telling them that I did not get their mail,they replied that I can send them the original fine by such and such date.I immediately sent them the check for $50 which was returned to me telling that I should send the full amount of $75.When I received this letter I called them and they said they never received the check and they have never sent it back.when I told them that I have these with me and that I can prove it,they sent me the court date.
    What should I do?
    Basically they are not a normal govt department.They are contractors.
    Are they answerable to anyone?
    Any advice?
    Thx
    Gujral

    • 888redlight February 10, 2011 5:55 am Reply

      Harvinder,

      I wish I could help here. I would just pay the $75 and call it a today. I am sure you time is worth more doing other productive things rather than trying to save $25 (especially when you are not likely to win despite your valid excuse).

  107. RJ February 8, 2011 9:52 am Reply

    I dont see the cameras on the list, but they are now at the following intersections on Rt 347:

    Old Town Rd
    Mark Tree Rd
    Stony Brook Rd
    Rt 25 (Middle Country Rd)

    No signs posted at any of these intersections. The only location I see on 347 where there is a sign posted is at Nicolls Rd.

  108. Eileen February 7, 2011 7:56 pm Reply

    Just got one from making right from Commack Rd Southbound to Westbound LIE North service road No sign

  109. RJ February 7, 2011 12:40 pm Reply

    I think I may have been nabbed by a camera last night on Rt 347 and Old Town Rd. I have to check and see if there are signs posted, but for most of the cameras out there (seems like a new one every day) I have not seen any signs posted. I feel like taking pictures today just in case I do get the ticket in the mail. How can one prove though when the signs went up? Say in the case there isnt one there now, but is in the next few days, weeks, etc?

    • 888redlight February 10, 2011 6:00 am Reply

      RJ,

      Great question. Take the photos and make sure they date date stamped. If you later install signs, you can take additional photos of those as well. However, your original ones will show no signs and should be sufficient.

      Good luck.

      Matthew Weiss

  110. JOE February 2, 2011 12:13 pm Reply

    I own a trucking company. I have a contract with a large company to deliver their packages. I received a Suffolk red light ticket for one of my drivers. Due to the contractual agreement the driver has been suspended for 30 days. I reviewed the video and found he went through the red light as he approached the stop line at a speed of 40mph on rt 25. The violation time was .2 seconds. Thats like a photo finish at a horse race! I spoke to a police officer at the local precinct. He said you can not see that by eye if you tried. He would not be ticketed by a human. End result is my driver wont pay rent or bills or buy food this month!

    • 888redlight February 6, 2011 8:24 pm Reply

      Joe,

      It does not seem like your driver has a good defense for this ticket. He can fight it but they are very hard to beat.

      Best,

      Matthew Weiss

  111. Stephen Seligson January 30, 2011 8:27 am Reply

    If there was no sign posted about the camera can you fight the ticket?

    Are there requirements as to the size and placement of the sign?

    • 888redlight January 30, 2011 8:43 am Reply

      Stephen,

      I would definitely try and fight your Suffolk County Red Light Camera ticket on this grounds. The applicable law states that signs must be posted. Take a bunch of photos of the intersection from various angles and give it a try.

      My fingers are crossed for you.

      Matthew Weiss

      • Stephen Seligson January 30, 2011 2:50 pm Reply

        Thank you so much Mathew- Is this something you would fight on my behalf- I would rather pay you $50 than pay the county. This is purely based on principle. I looked all over the internet and could not find any place that said that signage was required. Where can I find this rule?

      • THERESA LINDEMANN November 2, 2011 8:59 pm Reply

        JUST RECIEVED A TICKET THERE WAS NO SIGN SAYING
        CAMERA THIS WAS CR2 STRAIGHT PATH @NY 27 NB COPIAGUE NY WAS IN RIGHT HAND LANE SIGN SAID MUST MAKE RIGHT TURN NOTHING SAYING NO TURN ON RED.ALSO NO SIGN SAYING CAMERA,PICTURE SHOWS MY BRAKE LIGHTS BEFORE I MADE R-TURN.

        • 888redlight November 2, 2011 10:06 pm Reply

          Theresa,

          If you have the time, take a bunch of photos from different vantage points and fight the ticket. Argue that the law requires that signs be posted.

          Good luck.

          Matthew Weiss

  112. Hank Berger January 25, 2011 7:50 pm Reply

    Just got a ticket in the mail from 01/08/11 for NY 347 @ CR 97 Nicolls Road East Bound. Camera ID G1-10196. Didn’t see this camera posted on the website.

    • 888redlight January 26, 2011 9:02 pm Reply

      Hank,

      Our list of locations in not complete as the County is still adding locations. We will add this, however, right away.

      Matthew Weiss

  113. Wallace Freeman January 25, 2011 12:33 pm Reply

    Here in Texas an increasingly vast number of motorists have found there is no consequence attached to simply ignoring these civil revenue demands. What consequences might a New York vehicle owner incur from ignoring these Suffolk County demands for revenue? How ’bout an out-of-state vehicle owner? Would Suffolk County even bother to mail a revenue demand to an out-of-state vehicle owner?

    • 888redlight January 26, 2011 9:28 pm Reply

      Wallace,

      I doubt that you’ll have an issue for failing to pay a Suffolk County Red Light Camera ticket especially if you live out-of-state. It would be too much effort to collect too little money. In contrast, an in-state motorist could have his or her registration suspended which obviously has severe consequences.

      With that said, because a Suffolk red light camera ticket is only $50, I’m going to recommend just paying it to avoid any possibility of problems.

      Matthew Weiss

  114. anhk2k January 25, 2011 10:31 am Reply

    Doesn’t the Constitution guarantee an opportunity for a legal defense in all judicial matters? It sounds very much like traffic cameras in general are unconstitutional.
    Traffic Lawyer, what is your opinion?

    • 888redlight January 26, 2011 9:33 pm Reply

      Anhk2k,

      Many of the constitutional guarantees do not apply here because a conviction is treated like a parking ticket (i.e., does not impair a person’s privilege to drive).

      Mathew Weiss

  115. Al January 24, 2011 8:34 pm Reply

    I just got out of my unit from east patchogue, my car failed to brake when it was suppose to but it did brake, the camera on 112 took a picture of my car, I wanted to know I’d there is anything I can do to prove that my vehicle actually did stop at that light.

  116. Joseph Fornabaio January 22, 2011 4:31 pm Reply

    I have one for you guys, i got caught on 10/13/2010 service road of lie ocean ave. I got my ticket it said due date 11/17/2010 which is a wed. I didn’t get paid till friday that week. I paid it on 20 th. I just got a letter today telling me cause i was late i have to pay a $25 late fee.

    • 888redlight January 23, 2011 8:19 am Reply

      Joseph,

      This is unfortunate. The Suffolk County Red Light Safety Program website states that “The fine for a red light camera citation is $50. Additional late fees will be assessed if the citation is not paid in accordance with established time frames.

      I wish I didn’t have to be the bearer of the bad news. In the future, if you have any reasonable defense, you can plead not guilty to “buy” some extra time to pay.

      Matthew Weiss

  117. John Eckhoff January 17, 2011 9:23 pm Reply

    Today I saw a red light camera on Rte 25 (Middle Country Road) and CR83 (Patchogue-Mt Sinai Road) in Selden (Eastbound lane). I saw it flash for another driver and then I looked and saw the camera. It must be brand new.

  118. Linda January 15, 2011 6:02 pm Reply

    Another red light camera is on Middle County and Boyle Road in Selden. I know because I got a ticket! :-(

  119. tom January 14, 2011 5:14 pm Reply

    Matthew
    Are you aware of suffolk county having any unknown law that superceeds what I am seeing in the regulations that you advised me to read.

  120. tom January 14, 2011 5:07 pm Reply

    Thank you Red light

    I will look into this.

  121. tom January 13, 2011 3:00 pm Reply

    On 347 and Nicholes rd there are Video cameras that are recording cars slowing down but not making a complete stop on right turn lanes.(Seperate Lane) The lanes have yeild signs not stop signs. I am being told that if the light is red (Which you cannot see after you make the turn and come up to the yeild sign) that you are required to stop. Since when are yeild signs stop signs. Is there any past precedent that can be used on this law. When was the last time a ticket was given for a failue to stop at ayeild sign when the traffic light was RED.

    • 888redlight January 14, 2011 8:58 am Reply

      Tom,

      You are 100% right regarding yield signs. You can only disobey one if you fail to yield the right-of-way to another vehicle. Look at Vehicle and Traffic Law 1140 to 1146. These laws set forth the elements of such an offense.

      I hope this helps and wish you luck fighting this traffic ticket.

      Matthew Weiss

    • JJ January 15, 2011 5:02 pm Reply

      Hi Matt,

      I got a ticket when I made right turn without full stop even there is no yield sign there.

      Is there any one here has fight and win the case?

      Thanks

      JJ

  122. Kristen January 8, 2011 6:31 pm Reply

    If someone else is driving your car and the get a ticket from one of these traffic lights, how do you fight the ticket. For example my fiancee uses my fathers car while he states in NC, how can my Dad fight the ticket so it won’t go on his lincese?

    • 888redlight January 11, 2011 9:20 am Reply

      Kristen, the good news is that a conviction to a red light camera ticket in New York will not appear on your father’s driving record. However, the bad news is that you cannot beat this ticket based on the fact that your father was not the driver. The owner of the car remains liable even if he or she wasn’t driving. It is similar to how parking tickets work.

  123. John January 5, 2011 8:50 pm Reply

    Photoblocker may be illegal in NY. Does that mean internet retailers will not ship to a NY address?

  124. Mary January 4, 2011 8:14 am Reply

    I read on Suffolk County’s website that each camera traffic light would have a sign posted about it. After getting a ticket from a light with no sign I phoned the Colorado telephone number. They told me that since there was no sign posted, I could portest the ticket. Is this true?

    • 888redlight January 11, 2011 8:47 am Reply

      Mary, yes, the law requires that a sign warning of the red light camera be installed at the intersection. Therefore, take a bunch of photos from various angles and distances, and send that in with your not guilty letter.

      • Doug May 25, 2011 4:08 pm Reply

        Rather than taking a bunch of photos, doesn’t the photo of the driver passing through the intersection suffice? It would seem that the sign warning of the cameras should be clearly visible next to the light itself. Would pointing out that no warning sign exists in the photo documenting the offense be enough to shift the burden of proof (that there was a sign) away from the driver?

        • 888redlight May 25, 2011 11:02 pm Reply

          Doug,

          The red light camera photos do not show the intersection sufficiently for a judge to conclude whether a sign was posted (or not). Therefore, it is advisable to take a few shots from different angles of the intersection in question showing that no sign is/was posted.

          Matthew Weiss

          • Another offender June 21, 2011 5:55 pm

            Can the traffic attorney offer an opinion to the questions of posted signs and contesting the tickets?

            I’m the first person to say ticket the red light runner but it looks like they are nailing most folks for a right turn on red.

          • 888redlight June 22, 2011 7:31 am

            Another offender,

            All responses are written by me, Matthew Weiss, Esq. Red light camera tickets are issued to anyone who runs a red light including anyone who makes a right on red without fully stopping or who does so where signs prohibit it. The Suffolk County red light program does require that signs be posted at red light camera intersections warning about the presence of the cameras. I therefore believe a motorist can challenge a ticket if no signs are present.

            I hope this clarifies any ambiguity.

            Matthew Weiss

  125. Maggie December 7, 2010 8:39 pm Reply

    Hi, What is the timing for the yellow light? I counted between 4 and 5 seconds when light changed from green to yellow to red. There is no way to stop if you are going 50 and are close to the traffic light. To me this is a set up to catch as many people as they can. I almost wish to come to red light so I don’t have to worry about getting a ticket or being hit from behind. Is it legal to allow only few seconds to clear the intersection?

  126. Jack Burton December 3, 2010 11:22 am Reply

    Fight back! I just got a ticket on Ronkonkoma Ave and the North Service Road for not making a complete stop when turning right on red!! Buy Photoblocker spray. It’s not a scam, it’s works and some states have already banned it.

    • Traffic Lawyer December 3, 2010 10:58 pm Reply

      Jack,

      FYI: Photoblocker is illegal in New York.

    • Matt June 11, 2011 4:47 pm Reply

      The spray does not work as suffolk county takes a video. They use the video to zoom in and get your plate after the spray reflects the flash. They do offer a plastic plate cover that distorts your plate when viewed at any other angle than 0 degrees. i learned the hard way and spoke to the company who suggested the prism cover.

      By the way does suffolk county have to post signs approaching the red light camera for it to be legal? If so what is the law #

      Thanks,
      Matt

      • 888redlight June 12, 2011 10:57 am Reply

        Matt,

        Thanks for this info. The spray is illegal but I’m sure readers will appreciate to learn that it doesn’t work.

        I’ll have to research whether the law mandates a sign but, for now, the official website states:

        “The purpose of the red light camera program is to improve intersection safety by reducing the number of red light violations. If the warning signs stop motorists from running red lights rather than the cameras themselves, then the purpose of the program is being met.”

        Matthew Weiss

  127. Tom December 1, 2010 3:52 pm Reply

    Hi traffick Lawyer, I believe I just got a ticket over by the ramp by 110 or 109 i forget which one is which over by southern state in farmingdale. It was during this torrential rain and I was going to fast to stop for the yellow and as I got into the intersection it turned red and I saw it flash, although I tryed to stop before, I skidded half-way through and got nervous and sped through during the yellow. Is there anyway that I can fight this? thanks Tom.

  128. ally November 30, 2010 10:36 pm Reply

    Hello,

    I was coming down from 454 eastbound but was entering the right lane by mistake onto motor parkway but turned out back onto 454 eastbound and suddenly a light flashed. The light going 454 eastbound was still fully green (not even about to turn yellow). Did I just get a ticket?

    Thanks,
    Ally

    • Traffic Lawyer November 30, 2010 11:52 pm Reply

      Ally,

      I doubt it. Camera tickets in Suffolk are only being issued to drivers that disobey certain red lights at certain intersections. From your above description, it does not sound like you committed such an offense. Of course, if you did, you’ll know if a few weeks when you receive a “love letter” in the mail.

      Matt

  129. Marilyn November 30, 2010 7:14 pm Reply

    Do you know who Suffolk County contracted with to install, maintain red light cameras and issue citations? I would love to know who the contractor is. I think they are in Colorado. Thanks.

    • Traffic Lawyer November 30, 2010 11:48 pm Reply

      Marilyn,

      I will try and find this information out for you.

      Matt

      • Traffic Lawyer December 1, 2010 12:29 pm Reply

        Marilyn, you are apparently write. Violators are instructed to remit payment via mail to the Suffolk County Red Light Safety Program at PO Box 1730, Denver, CO 80201-1730. They do not provide any more info for the company, however, in the Notice of Liability. Perhaps, the customer service number at 866-637-0008 can provide you with the company’s name and physical address. I hope this helps.

        • d johnson November 3, 2011 6:15 pm Reply

          I just got one..coming north turned on to 35 east to make a right in Holbrook rd south…the sign for device enforced is west of my turn …you can not see it…do I have a case..Traffic Lawyer…and thanks for your help…

          • 888redlight November 3, 2011 9:23 pm

            D Johnson,

            Give it a shot. Take a bunch of photos from various vantages points and argue that there is not sign advising of the red light camera from this direction of travel.

            Good luck.

            Matthew Weiss

  130. Oliver November 21, 2010 2:29 pm Reply

    This is really bad. I have already got two tickets – one is for turn RIGHT without stop on red light. So any chance we can fight back ?

    • Traffic Lawyer November 21, 2010 2:42 pm Reply

      Oliver,

      There very few defenses which will work.

      Here is the list: Unexpected mechanical failure in car; your car was used by someone who stole it from you, unexpected medical condition, medical emergency, and broken traffic signal.

      • Brian June 20, 2011 12:54 pm Reply

        I recently received a red light ticket but was curious if weather could be a reason for the infraction. It had been raining out and I found it safer to continue through the intersection rather than stop quickly at 55mph. The red light time was .4 seconds… Your thoughts?

        • 888redlight June 21, 2011 12:08 am Reply

          Brian,

          I don’t think inclement weather will help you. Feel free to try but don’t get your hopes up.

          Matthew Weiss

      • Blake October 24, 2011 5:02 pm Reply

        I don’t understand how passing a red light is illegally when making a right turn. Thats the whole point of right on red. There really grasping straws here.

  131. Roger Z October 31, 2010 1:10 am Reply

    Oh I’m sure other counties in NYS will follow suit like Westchester County and perhaps Rockland. They’re strapped for cash and are contemplating this idea. I absolutely hate when suburbs attempt to copy the same blatant revenue generating robbery tactics of urban cities. What’s the point of moving out of NYC then if you’re subjected to the same stupidity on suburban roads where they will shorten the yellow light duration to create situations in which motorists think they can make the yellow, but get caught with the cam as the light changes to red midway through the intersection as it does in NYC? This stupidity is only getting worst.

    • Traffic Lawyer November 2, 2010 9:59 am Reply

      Roger,

      Each camera generates $2 to $3 million a year. This kind of revenue is hard for cash-strapped municipalities to ignore. Unless local government cut spending and practice more fiscally conservative policies, these types of programs will continue to proliferate.

    • Andrea Doxey July 5, 2011 3:54 pm Reply

      There was no sign posted that this was a red light camera intersection, and the website states that all intersections are supposed to have signage indicating as such. Is there a chance that I can refute the ticket?

      • 888redlight July 5, 2011 7:42 pm Reply

        Andrea,

        Yes, there is a chance, Take multiple photos of the intersection so you can prove that no signs were present. Good luck and please post your result.

        Matthew Weiss

        • RobE April 1, 2013 3:27 pm Reply

          I (and/or my wife) have gotten tickets for making a right turn at a red light. It is OK to make a right on red in Suffolk — as long as it is safe and there is no signage saying you can not do so. While I seen signs posted that there is no right turn on red — some intersections do not have signs. Recently they are starting to impose tickets for making right on red at these none-posted intersection as well. Is this legal? For example, corner at the intersection of Commack Road and the LIE (495 EAST) in Commack, Long Island. There is no signage — yet she has gotten “camera tickets” for making a right when the traffic flow allows it.

          • Matthew Weiss April 1, 2013 3:30 pm

            RobE,

            You can make a right on red in Suffolk County unless there is a sign prohibiting such a turn. The red light camera tickets are being issued to those motorist who make that turn illegally. Specifically, motorists must come to a complete stop prior to making the right turn. A slow or rolling stop before making a right on red is illegal in New York.

            Matthew Weiss

          • Walter April 5, 2013 2:52 pm

            I just got a ticket from this same intersection. Commack Road North and the LIE. There is no sign there. Why would I have gotten a ticket from the camera? Can I fight it?

          • Matthew Weiss April 5, 2013 10:49 pm

            Walter,

            I don’t know if you have grounds to fight this ticket from your description. I can say that beating a red light camera ticket is near impossible.

            Matthew Weiss

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