Below is a list of intersections where Nassau County red light camera’s will be installed. If you pass a red light, you will receive the ticket in the mail. This ticket carries 0 points and will not affect your auto insurance. It is more akin to a parking ticket. We do not recommend fighting this type of ticket unless the photographs of your car do not show you running a red light, your car was stolen at the time the violation occurred or you experienced mechanical problems preventing you from obeying the red light.
Of course, if you receive a red light ticket from a police officer in Nassau County, this is still a moving violation . We recommend fighting this type of ticket as it carries 3 points and could affect your auto insurance rates.
By the way, Nassau County will do NOT expect Nassau County to install warning signage like the one depicted below. Rather, like New York City, it is expected to install the inconspicuous cameras without warning in order to maximize the number of motorists caught breaking the lights and, thereby, maximize its red light camera revenue. Watch out, Big Brother is watching you!
There are also rampant rumors on the internet that motorists running a yellow light will also be issued such a ticket but that makes no sense. It is not illegal to run a yellow light in New York State, only a red one. As long as you enter the intersection (i.e., pass the cross walk prior to the light changing from yellow to red), you have a strong defense to any yellow light ticket.
Albertson
I.U. Willets Rd. Willis Ave.
I.U. Willets Rd. Roslyn Rd.
Baldwin
Atlantic Ave. Grand Ave.
Grand Ave. Seaman Ave.
Grand Ave. Stanton Ave.
Grand Ave. DeMott Ave.
Bayville
Bayville Ave. Ludlam Ave.
Bellmore
Jerusalem Ave. Newbridge Rd.
Bellmore Ave. Newbridge Rd.
Bellmore Ave. Beltagh Ave.
Bellmore Ave. Jerusalem Ave.
Jerusalem Ave. Bellmore Rd.
Bethpage
Central Ave. Stewart Ave.
Central Ave. Broadway
Stewart Ave Cherry Ave.
Carle Place
Glen Cove Rd. Old Country Rd.
Glen Cove Rd. Westbury Ave.
Cedarhurst
Peninsula Blvd. Rockaway Turnpke.
East Garden City
Charles Lindbergh Blvd. Earle Ovington Blvd.
Stewart Ave. Merhcants Concourse
East Meadow
Merrick Ave. Front Street
East Meadow Ave. Front Street
East Rockaway
Atlantic Ave. Ocean Ave.
Atlantic Ave. Main St .
Elmont
Elmont Rd. Dutch Broadway
Elmont Rd. Linden Blvd.
Franklin Square
New Hyde Park Rd. Tulip Ave.
Franklin Ave. Corona Ave.
Glen Head
Glen Cove Rd. Glen Head Rd.
Great Neck
Middle Neck Rd. GreatNeck Rd.
Cutter Mill Rd. Great Neck Rd.
Greenvale
Glen Cove Rd. Helen Street
Herricks
Herricks Rd. Shelter Rock Rd.
Hicksville/Plainview
Old Country Rd. South Oyster Bay Rd.
Old Country Rd. Levittown Parkway
Old Country Rd. Jerusalem Ave.
Old Country Rd. Division Ave.
Inwood/Lawrence
Nassau Expressway Bay Blvd.
Nassau Expressway Burnside Ave.
Levittown
Loring Rd. N.Jerusalem Rd.
Lido Beach
Lido Blvd. Greenway Rd.
Lido Blvd. Loop Parkway
Massapequa
Carmans Rd. Louden Street
Broadway Clark Blvd.
Mineola
Mineola Blvd./Franklin Ave. Old Country Rd.
Roslyn Rd. Old Country Rd.
Oceanside
Long Beach Rd. Mott St .
Long Beach Rd. Daly Blvd.
Syosset
Jackson Ave. Convent Rd.
Uniondale
Uniondale Ave. Front St .
Uniondale Ave. Nassau Rd.
Westbury
Post Ave/Merrick Ave. Old Country Rd.
Old Country Rd. School St.
Woodmere
Woodmere Blvd. Peninsula Blvd.
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While trying to make a left turn II was in an accident on Grand Ave & De Mott Ave in Baldwin which is photo enforced. I am almost positive the other driver ran the red light. Is there a way to get a copy of photo?
B,
You can try to make a Freedom of Information Act request for this item. Contact the court to ask for help to make such a request.
Matthew Weiss
On Ring Road and Old Country Road, the camera flash came on before the vehicle crossed the stop line on the ground. Defective camera equipment. It is on the Nassau County picture and video. Do I have grounds to fight this successfully?
Eli BH,
The camera may not be defective. Red light cameras regularly flash even when someone does not run a red light. They have to flash in anticipation of a violation to capture the “before” photograph. It is only if someone runs the red light that they take a second “after” shot and issue a summons.
Matthew Weiss
i came to a light that turn yellow and was about to turn red so i stop close to the pedestrian line (second line) but did not continue accross the red light, i saw the camera flash twice when i stop at the red light (all four wheels stop). i notice the car was between the first & second, that’s when i know that it was trigger, so can you get a ticket when light is trigger at the pedestrian line ?
Anonymous,
I doubt that you’ll get a ticket in your circumstances. The cameras routinely are activated “in case” they case someone. They need a before and after photo so many of the flashes occur without catching anyone.
Matthew Weiss
I received a Nassau County red camera ticket while making a right-hand turn from northbound Quentin Roosevelt onto Stewart Ave in Garden City. The ticket itself doesn’t seem to indicate what the specific violation is.
I went to the intersection myself with my own camera to take pictures of it and saw that there is no “No Turn on Red” sign. Upon seeing the video online, I noticed that I only stopped for a second and then turned. The problem is that a postal truck ahead of me stopped for that same duration of time, and the post office is around that corner. I know that the postman would likely be subject to the same violation as me, but I figured that if someone is returning to work around the corner, they would know better than me about the red light camera and the duration allowed to stop, right?
Another issue is that the white chalk indicating where cars should stop is faded and not very clear in the video. I did come to a one second stop before the pedestrian crosswalk, however.
Do you think I should fight this ticket? And more importantly, if I choose to fight this ticket and lose, does this violation then become one with points assessed to my driving record? I’m willing to fight this violation provided that in a worst case scenario where I lose, I pay the BS $80 ($50 fine & $30 “driver responsibility fee”).
Mike,
Unfortunately, nothing that you’ve written seems helpful for you to fight this case. I don’t think you have much chance to win. With that said, if you do fight it, you will NOT have any points or higher fine if you lose.
Matthew Weiss
Hi Matt , My situation is this , I pulled up to an intersection in the right lane looking to make a right turn. There was a vehicle in the left lane who was stopped at the intersection but was far enough past the pedestrian white line to where i could not see the oncoming traffic coming from my left. So I stopped (albeit briefly) further past him and definitely past the white line and then made a right turn. Got a ticket for that, Just curious if its worth a day off and a trip to traffic court. Its not the money , I am a good driver with an excellent record . Btw if the county was really worried about safety there then they should hang a no right turn on red. But as we know its all about the money. I guess my $15k a year in taxes is not enough. Thanks, Jim
Anonymous,
It does not sound like you have much of a defense to this ticket. Sorry.
Matthew Weiss
Hello, I was making a right turn on elmont and dutch broadway, no pedestrians etc…They gave me a ticket because I went thru the light but you can make a right on red there. Its not queens, correct or I wouldn’t have a ticket from Nassau county…
Nneka,
I’m not sure where the Nassau-Queens border is located vis-a-vis this location. I suggest checking with Google maps. In any event, if you failed to make a complete stop, you can be issued such a ticket in either county.
Matthew Weiss
Some Nassau County intersections have signs advising of photo-enforcement cameras, while others have cameras installed with no such warnings. Is this legal?
Gitte,
It is my understanding that signs should be placed at each such intersection. I do not think that this omission will invalidate a red light camera ticket.
Matthew Weiss
I just received a second notice for Red Light Camera violation. I have no intention of fighting it as I’m busy and it’s a kangaroo court anyway. However, I have read and heard that in other areas because the ticket was not issued by a policeman that their enforcement options are limited.
Accordingly, I can either pay or ignore, what are their options in Nassau if I continue to throw them away. Can they actually touch my license or registration or am I simply in for 3 years worth of junk mail?
Thanks,
Phil
Phil,
If you ignore it, I’m told that your credit rating can be impaired plus a late fee will be imposed. I therefore recommend just paying the $50.
Matthew Weiss
…and they wonder why so many people are getting SO pissed off and ready to revolt. They come up with these illegal old world kangaroo courts, are violating and taking away peoples rights every day.. replace rights and tricking people into giving up their rights via these BS adhesion contracts that people have no clue about, force you to sign up for them telling you “it’s the law!” when it’s nothing more than a Corporate policy of either the USA INC, NY State INC, etc.. and are in fact suing you for a contract violation, for that is what any traffic ticket is.
This is exactly the kind of Garbage that the founders fought against to prevent, which is why the Constitution was based on COMMON LAW, not maritime/admiralty law which they have once again imposed on people, along with the numerous unrevealed illegal contracts.
A drivers licenses is a COMMERCIAL instrument needed for COMMERCE only as it plainly says in Title 18 USC § 31 –
(6) Motor vehicle.— The term “motor vehicle” means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo.
(10) Used for commercial purposes.— The term “used for commercial purposes” means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.
No one is driving for commercial purposes save for bus/truck drivers, taxis, train drivers, etc. This the ENTIRE so called “motor vehicle code” which everyone that is given a ticket is accused of violating does NOT APPLY! It’s that simple.
Luke,
I’m not sure I agree with your interpretation but really appreciate that you shared your thoughts on this topic.
Matthew Weiss
I received a red light camera ticket turning from Lakeville Rd onto Marcus Ave eastbount. The pic clearly includes a sign stating Right On Red After Stop. The time lapse between the pic showing the car stopped at the stop line and the pic showing the car turning is 2.4 seconds, which seemed to me to be plenty of time to have come to a complete stop.
Fortunately, you can view for yourself the video on the drivesafelyinnassau.com site after you enter your Notice & PIN#s. Unfortunately, I did see the car slowed and hesitated but did not completely stop and so is in violation. Fortunately, as I was able to view the video for myself, I did not have to waste time taking a day off work to see it in court.
Karen,
Thanks for sharing your experience. You are correct. If your car does not come to a complete stop, then you did not legally make a right on red turn.
Matthew Weiss
Matt – I knew I was going to get a ticket @ Willis & IU Willets & sure enough… It was raining & although I started to brake , I was worried about skidding. Is it even worth trying to fight it? I have to fight in person, right?
By the way, I find it outrageous that they are permitted to charge he exorbitant $30 “admin fee” when clearly the number of tickets processed must be a hundred fold!
Robin,
It doesn’t sound like this red light camera ticket is worth fighting. If the photo shows you running a red light, then you’re most very likely going to lose.
Matthew Weiss
Hi Matt,
I was wondering what the legality or defense might be for a stupid LIRR facing the wrong way ticket. Freaking thing is $105.. there’s no way they’re getting that much for another BS policy violation which is all it is.
The nearest sign is about 400 feet away in small letters over by the ticket window, while I was parked almost at the end at the station. I didn’t even KNOW that they had such a stupid ordinance.. now they’re trying to tell you which DIRECTION to park in… Good f-ing God. More bs ways to steal money from people.
I haven’t looked up the code yet and I’m just starting to research it, have to go on Monday at 9am.
Thanks,
Luke
Luke,
I don’t fight parking tickets so I cannot answer this question. I refer you to a parking ticket page on my website that contains helpful information on this topic.
Matthew Weiss
Are there any standards or regulations controlling the placement of traffic control devices, specifically right on red stop lines? I received a camera ticket for stopping ahead of the line but you can not see left from the line since the line is well back from the stop line for traffic going straight.
Thank you.
Larry,
I am sure there are standards. Check the regulations of the NYS Department of Transportation.
Matthew Weiss
thanks in advance for the help.
i was driving on marcus avenue, when i approached the red light. i wanted to make the right turn onto lakeville road. i believe i made the full stop but am not 100% sure. their were no vehicles coming in my direction so i proceeded to make the right turn on red. as i made the turn i recall seeing flashes but i’m not sure if they were intended for me or for someone else in the intersection. is this intersection considered queens or nassau county? if it is queens i understand the violation, but since their is no indication or sign i dont understand how i can be ticketed. if it is nassau, the right turn on red is permitted so i still don’t see why i can be ticketed.
i have not recieved the ticket in the mail, since this occured on wednesday night (december 28th) and it is now still only the 31st. but as i think the violation might be intended for me, i just want to be sure so next time i don’t make the same mistake.
what do you think in this situation?
Max,
This intersection is right on the Queens- Nassau border and, as a result, one of the nastiest traps in either locale. Motorists going eastbound are still in Queens and, thus, may NOT make a right on red (even if there is no sign prohibiting such a turn). Anyone who does (even after a full stop) has “ran” the light and is subject to a ticket. Coming from the other direction, you are in Nassau, and a full stop IS required to avoid a ticket.
Matthew Weiss
HI, HOW CAN I FIND OUT IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A RIGHT ON RED AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAKEVILLE ROAD AND UNION TURNPIKE PROCEEDING EASTBOUND? I RECEIVED A RED LIGHT TICKET THERE, AND I THOUGHT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TURN RIGHT ON RED AT THAT INTERSECTION. I DON’T SEE ANY SIGN IN THE PICTURES THEY TOOK AND SENT TO ME THAT YOU CAN’T TURN RIGHT ON RED.
Tracey, this is a huge trap. Going eastbound, you are still in NYC at this location and a right on red is generally not permitted in New York City.
Matthew weiss
Hi,
I just got a notice of late payment for a red light camera ticket at Lakeville and Marcus Ave. This is my second ticket making this left. I never received the first notice. I did get a ticket before this one and paid it right away (at this intersection) and another ticket (at another intersection) and paid it right away. I called the company to complain. I don’t mind to pay but I refuse to pay the extra $25 because I never got the original notice for this violation. How does it make sense that I paid 2 others but didn’t pay this one (received in between the two others)? Their response is that they only make exceptions for returned mail.
If they cannot prove that I received it in the first place, how can they penalize me?
Also, I happen to be an expert on calibration and standard laboratory practices for calibrated equipment (this is part of my day to day job and am specifically trained to audit calibration reports). I suspect that this light system is not correctly calibrated in accordance with generally accepted traceable methods. How can I request the calibration and maintenance reports for this particular system – as well as the calibration methods used?
I am not looking to fight the ticket (I can clearly see that it was red – however it was not green long enough for the car before me to travel through the intersection – the light did not stay green long enough for even a single car to pass through – all of the lights here even appear red as EVERY car went through this intersection – something is wrong), but I am looking to fight the additional fine and make them jump through hoops if possible.
They also have the wrong car on the violation. The car in the photo / video was my wife’s old car and the one mentioned in the notice is her new car (can this be used to my advantage?).
Please point me in the right direction and thank you in advance!
Dan Posner
Dan,
Your best option is to plead not guilty. This is the only way that you can raise these issues and hopefully get justice.
Good luck.
Matthew Weiss
Hi,
I received a red light ticket on the corner of jericho tpke and glen cove road, I was turning right to go towards Hillside Ave. I have lived in this area for over ten years and I have always made a right here after stopping, and there have been cops literally standing across at the Mobile gas station who have never stopped me. I have seen plenty of other cars do it as well. After they put this camera up, I have still seen many cars continue to turn right on red, and there have been no flashes, yet for me the camera flashed. I want to fight this ticket because a. there is no sign indicating that I can’t make a right on red, whereas for a left turn, there’s a signal, b. this is nassau county, you can always make a right on red, UNLESS NOTED otherwise. There was nothing noted here at all. If you look at the entrance to Roosevelt field mall on Old Country Road, it says ok you can make a right on red after you stop. In queens, it says you can’t make a right on red. Here, there was no sign!!
Any suggestions on trying to fight this ticket? Thanks!
Maria,
If you made a complete stop (i.e., all 4 wheels stopped moving), then you have a chance to beat this ticket.
Good luck.
Matthew Weiss
sorry , error came up on my page when I hit enter on the first one.
I have read V and T 1111-b many times, only thing I am unsure of is by saying what defenses are allowed , are they excluding other defenses, like timing of the light .
In my hearing , the judge did not allow me to use that as a defense and I wonder of you can only argue what the legislation says you can. I am appealing an wonder if I can challenge the legislation in the Appellate Term. I am not an attorney .
Also , do you know what legislation allowed the 15 dollar surcharge as I cannot find that. I have looked at many of these camera bills.
Thank you
I have read 1111b of the Vehicle and traffic law many times because I have been investigating this for a while. Only thing I am unsure of is whether by saying what defenses are allowed (like traffic light not operating properly) , are they excluding the other defenses like the short timing of the light ?
I am appealing a violation, and the way the judge didn’t allow me to present that argument at the original hearing leads me to believe you can only argue what the legislation allows you to. If so, can you challenge the legislation in the Appellate Term appeal ?
Note…..there are bills related to defenses that did not pass in Albany , like … “It is a defense to 1111-b that police manipulated the traffic light .” I realize the police are not involved , but that bill has been introduced for years and never brought to a vote.
Also , are you familiar with what legislation allowed the extra 15 dollar surcharge. I cannot find it .
thank you
Got a ticket for making a left hand turn from west bound Old Country Road to northbound So. Oyster Bay Road. Was just at the intersection and realized that the turning light is so short that it is turning yellow before the second car in the turning lane gets through the intersection.
Maureen,
You must enter the intersection before the light turns red. Otherwise, you have violated the red light law (even if the yellow was short).
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Matthew Weiss
Hi – I got oa photo clicked in front left when I crossed the intersection at amber. I was sure the light was amber as long i can see the light post I passed by. There were no picture taken from back .It was only from front side but not sure will this make a red light offecnse. Please let me know.
Arun,
Regardless of the angle, the photo should clearly show your vehicle approaching the intersection and in the section while the light is in the red phase at both locations.
Matthew Weiss
Matthew – If I am proven Guilty for Photo ticket (Red light) whats the cost of it? How many point will I get?
It happened on Nassau County
Thanks for your reply !
Matt,
Have you come across any successful arguments regarding when the NOL must be served upon the owner? I’ve reviewed 1111-b as well as Nassau’s 12-2009. I can’t find anything in either that speaks to when the notice of liability must be served. The language speaks only to method of delivery and contents of notice, but not timing. I’ve not seen this issue raised in any of the cases I reviewed challenging the provisions of 12-2009.
I received a NOL for a violation on 4/29, but the NOL is dated 6/15 (I’ll have to see if I can find the envelope to determine when it was actually served). This stretch of time seems unduly lengthy. It seems to me that service within 30 days of violation would be reasonable, plus 5 days for mailing, but I can’t find anything that speaks to this issue in this context. Do you think it’s worth contesting NOL on this issue alone?
Kelly,
Interesting point. However, I seriously doubt that you’ll win based on a notice served 6 weeks after the incident. A laches or staleness argument would require a more lengthy delay and a change in position on your part which makes the delay unfair. If you obtain any further information or win on this point, PLEASE let us know.
Good luck fighting this one. I hope you win.
Matthew Weiss
ha. I was hoping you’d fight it on my behalf and take all the credit for the win on this great blog! For $65 I don’t have the stamina to take on this one. But as a lawyer myself I found it shocking that the statute is silent on this issue, and that none of the challenges have raised it.
please don’t post this reply – for your eyes only.
Thanks for your time Counsellor, and the prompt reply.
Matt,
Do you know specifically what type of action a traffic ticket is, Civil or Criminal??
I went to court and asked the judge if this was a Civil or Criminal action. He said neither, which confused me. I said if it’s neither then how can I be fined. I think the DA said something about it just being a traffic court action or violation. I said if it doesn’t fall under either action based on the Constitution, then where does this court get the authority to ticket and fine me?? The DA and judge looked at each other perplexed and ignored my question.
I said that based on my research, there are only TWO Criminal jurisdictions mentioned in the Constitution, Common law and International Maritime Contracts, under an Admiralty Jurisdiction. The judge said it was neither of those. I then asked “Is this a statutory jurisdiction then?” He said no, but then later said it was a actionable under criminal law until..something..which I didn’t quite get what he said.
Of course they were playing dumb because it’s a Kangaroo court and since I’m already considered guilty until proven innocent, which is virtually impossible to DO, they just want to try the facts of the case to get their fines for the courts and the banks.
But I still can’t figure out what TYPE of action they think they’re operating under to be able to do this to people, if it’s not (as they Claim) a Civil OR Criminal action…then what am I doing there???
Thanks for your time!
Rob
Rob,
Great question! Most traffic tickets are NOT criminal matters while other are criminal. Examples of the latter are DWI, reckless driving and aggravated un-licensed. The garden variety traffic ticket is not a criminal matter. However, it is generally governed by the procedural rules applicable to criminal matters (i.e., the Criminal Procedure Law). On the other hand, traffic tickets adjudicated at the Traffic Violations Bureau (New York City, Buffalo, Rochester and parts of Suffolk County) are civil matters that are resolved in the administrative agency with judicial oversight under Article 78 of the CPLR.
I hope this answer wasn’t too technical and thanks for submitting this question.
Matthew Weiss
I just received a delinquent notice of liability from Nassau County from a red light camera. The problem is I never revived the first notice. It gets more interesting when I looked at the date and realized that I was home in bed recuperating from outpatient surgery the day before. I can actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I was not driving the car that is pictured going through the red light on South Oyster Bay Road at Woodbury Road in the rain at 8:43 AM. If this is the case how can I be held liable for the infraction. The liability is not the same a “parking ticket” issued to a stationary vehicle but a moving violation committed by a driver who was most definitely not me. The only reason they are not issuing points is because they can’t prove who was driving and I CAN prove it was not me. Do I have a defense? Any comments?
Larry, sadly, you have no defense, Like a parking ticket, the owner of a car is liable for any red light camera ticket issued regardless of who was driving.
HELP! I misplaced the red light camera ticket I was going to fight. Now it’s due in two days. Can I still fight it without a paper ticket? Where do I go to get a copy. I was ticketed at Old Country Road and Ring road near Roosevelt Field in Nassau County. There is a sign that says right turn on red and the turn is way before the light. The time on the ticket said 1.? seconds, I think.
Lori,
Contact the Nassau County Traffic Violations & Parking Agency and they can help locate your lost ticket.
Good luck!
Matthew Weiss
Hi Matt,
Doesn’t any traffic ticket issued in NY have to be signed by a police officer? Red light cam tickets are not signed by a cop, only viewed by the recording.
Also, is not the camera itself hearsay and fall under the same argument as to why radar guns are not admitted as evidence for speeding tickets unless witness by a cop at the time of alleged infraction.
Thanks
Luke,
I haven’t researched the issue but I doubt that red light camera tickets have to be signed. They aren’t even issued by an officer so how could a signature be required?
The hearsay argument has been unsuccessfully raised before despite it being a good argument (in my opinion).
Keep the ideas coming. If a real good one comes up, I’d be happy to pursue it pro bono.
Matthew Weis
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the replies and Pro bono offer too!
That’s kind of my point is that they are just issuing your a ticket, which is a non crime under common law of course with no accuser other than a camera and no officer witnessing the crime as required under the Constitution.
If there is no injured party, then there can be no crime…unless they’re operating under Admiralty/Maritime jurisdiction, which they really are, but that’s the big dirty little secret. If there is no injured party or complaining witness, the court has no jurisdiction under the Common Law
How else can to consider your car as a “vehicle” which Blacks law Dictionary defines as “Something used as an instrument of conveyance. 2. Any conveyance used in transporting passengers or things by land, water, or air.”Black’s Law Dictionary (8th ed. 2004) , Page 4822
Words like Vehicle, traffic, road/roadway etc are all corporate terms for business. A taxi IS a vehicle since it takes paying passengers and hence does fall under Admiralty/Maritime/Commercial law. A person in the car (not vehicle) is a guest, not passenger. More linguistic ledger demain they use to confuse the general public.
The various codes, ordinances and the like are not laws but codes and as such, only fall under maritime contract law which one can be penalized for… if they admit they’re under that law and don’t know about it, which 99% of the people don’t.
By forcing them to prove an actual crime was committed under the Constitution, which requires and actual injured party, which going through a red light, speeding nor any other traffic infraction causes, they have to either admit there is no crime and thus no punishment can be meted out, or acknowledge that they’re operating under Admiralty/Maritime law and let the cat out of the bag, which they absolutely do not want to do.
The crime has to be a Criminal action, for if it were a civil action there could be no fine, so it has to be criminal. Since there is no “corpus delecti “, this proves that they can only be operating under Maritime jurisdiction, which means they then have to prove, or get the person to admit that they’re under Maritime contracts and once they do that they’re acknowledging their own party to fraud. They would have to place the Maritime contract into evidence to be examined, as long as we call them on it that is.
If they try and dismiss all of that an admit that they’re not operating under the common law, nor Admiralty law, but Statutory Jurisdiction, then that is a secret jurisdiction not supported by the Constitution, nor are there are rules of criminal procedure for them either for the average person to be able to defend themselves based on it.
Even if they did rule against it, it’s virtually guaranteed that the appelates would dismiss it since the lower courts (traffic courts, etc) are many times not even aware of what jurisdiction they’re actually operating under either, though their pretty yellow fringed flag which is not a Title 4 flag should give them a clue of course.
Thanks
Hi,
As so many people above, I was making a right turn from marcus ave. to lakeville road. The light was red, I did in fact come to a complete stop and stood there for five seconds at least before making the turn. As I turned I saw the flash of the camera and I think it took my picture. I heard that if you don’t stop right at the line it’ll photograph you, but I do think that I stopped no further than a foot or half a foot before the line. Do you think that they’ll still ticket me? Or could it have been the other camera in the intersection? Thanks in advance for your help.
Monique,
I have no way to knowing whether you were photographed. Generally, the cameras cover a wide area so I think there is a pretty good chance, however.
Matt
Is there a specific time frame associated with a notice of liability? The violation date on my violation is 3/25/2011 and the date of the notice is 5/5/2011. I know some municipalities must notify you within 30 days. Does Nassau County have this same restriction?
Skip,
I do not think your red light camera is untimely. In fact, I haven’t heard of any deadline but certainly 5 weeks (or so) does not render it untimely.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Matthew Weiss
Thank Matt,
I also read that they will ask if I want to stipulate to have the video and pictures shown in court and that if I don’t stipulate that they have to get the technician into the court, which is usually someone from another state and that it likely dismisses the ticket as well? Nassau counties seems to be hosted by a Tempe, AZ company.. any truth on the Stipulation idea?
What about how a camera or device can not be your accuser, or the fact that the ticket was not signed by a police officer nor did they directly witness the crime?
I also read that since it’s a traffic device, any information gleaned from it is considered hearsay and once again, can’t be admitted as evidence against you. After all if even a third party Human can’t be admitted unless you heard it directly, a machine should be even more inadmissible as well.
Thanks for your time and help!
I got a red light camera ticket on 4/6/11 at Glen Cove and Jericho Tnpke. There was a yellow arrow and it says I went through the red light, making a right turn on red which is allowed at this intersection. My car is just about under the light and of course I’m looking to the left at the time watching for traffic, NOT staring straight up at the light to slam on my brakes the instant the yellow light goes off.
It says I went through the light by .7 seconds, at least I think that’s what the RTIME field of 000.7 seconds means. It’s a $65.00 ticket which I do not have to spare to pay being out of work.
Even more so.. I’m WELL aware of the scam that is the so called Vehicle traffic laws/maritime corporate rules being applied on the land which only apply on the sea, etc.
I have read that you can beat these tickets in court by not allowing the court to stipulate to showing of the evidence as this would mean that they have to get the technician themselves into the courtroom to show the video or pictures. Since they are usually in another state which I think is also the case with Nassau, if so that would dismiss the charge.
I have read Nassau county local law 12-2009 where they claim that though the cameras will not show the drivers face this is not a defense, but it says that “No NOTICE of LIABILITY Shall be dismissed because the contents of the vehicle could not be identified” Note is says Contents of the vehicle, which is a separate distinction from the driver. I already received the notice of liability…now they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was me driving the vehicle and I’m not about to tell them whether it was or was not. Any effort to force me to admit such is a violation of my 5th amendment rights.
Since they have no pictures of your face, they can’t prove that it was you driving the car. Burden of proof is on them If they can’t prove it was me, they should have no case and it should be thrown out.
Your thoughts Doc? Thanks
Rich,
They do NOT have to prove that you were driving. It is like a parking ticket. The owner is responsible regardless of who was driving. Further, they do not have to bring in the technician to find you guilty. You can make that argument but it won’t likely get you too far.
Of course, you are free to fight it anyway. They won’t penalize you for taking it to trial, so give it a shot.
Good luck.
Matthew Weiss
Thank Matt,
I also read that they will ask if I want to stipulate to have the video and pictures shown in court and that if I don’t stipulate that they have to get the technician into the court, which is usually someone from another state and that it likely dismisses the ticket as well? Nassau counties seems to be hosted by a Tempe, AZ company.. any truth on the Stipulation idea?
What about how a camera or device can not be your accuser, or the fact that the ticket was not signed by a police officer nor did they directly witness the crime?
I also read that since it’s a traffic device, any information gleaned from it is considered hearsay and once again, can’t be admitted as evidence against you. After all if even a third party Human can’t be admitted unless you heard it directly, a machine should be even more inadmissible as well.
Thanks for your time and help!
Sorry, forgot to hit the reply button originally.
There is a red light camera at the intersection of stewart ave and merrick ave by Eisenhower park.
Matt,
Thanks for adding this red light camera location to our list. I hear that Nassau is installing 50 more red light cameras throughout the county.
I received a notice of liability for a red light on “sb merrick ave @ hempstead tpke in nassau county. I was shown making a left from merrick ave onto hempstead tpke. The before still shot shows what appears to be a red light, however after blowing up the picture I realized the yellow arrow was hidden by a ”red shadow” of the the red light which is red even when I had a green arrow.
Picture your typical light red on top –middle yellow — and bottom green. Then picture a second light attached to it with just 2 arrows — yellow and green. The main light was red and I had a green arrow, as I got closer it turned yellow and that is the before picture. I guess when the camera flashed or the sun was on it it appeared to red on the arrow light which only had the two arrows yellow and green ( I can send you the picture if you are interested).
That brings me to my question. I went to court today and when the ADA ( or who ever he was) produced the evidence and asked if I objected I said yes because there was a problem with the arrow light being yellow in the picture. The judge said she will base her decision on the video which it looked like the yellow light disapeared before I turned and I was found guilty 1) Since the picture I was sent in the mail was wrong should that be all I needed. 2) can I appeal (costly?) 3) When watching the video I noticed if you go real slow the yellow light appears to fade, Where that stopped the video in court it appears the yellow light was gone ( very hard to see) but if they went one more frame you can then see the the light really disappear. Either way the picture shows my right tire close to the line in the first one and touching the line if they went one more frame. Since I was turning right my left tire would have been further and most likely crossing the line but there is no picture showing that side of the car. 4) what is considered being in the crosswalk when the yellow light runs out — Bumper overhanging, one tire over line, two ,three or all tires ect…..
Thanks Mike
Mike,
1) If the video shows you violating the law, the “wrong picture defense” won’t work.
2) it is not worth appeal.
3) This doesn’t seem like to help
4) Bumper overhanging.
Thank you !!!
Good afternoon. Today I was driving west on Marcus Avenue towards Lakeville Road. As I was approaching the intersection to make a left hand turn in the outer turning lane onto Lakeville, the light suddenly turned yellow. I raced up to make the light which I think I did (I’m not totally sure), but had to momentarily stop at the beginning of the intersection right behind the lone car in front of me who was waiting for oncoming traffic to pass to make his left turn. A friend I was driving with then told me that this was a red light camera location. When I drove back after dropping him off, I noticed that the cameras were located at the northeast corner of the intersection, and my turn was at the southeast corner. My question is this: will those cameras also catch left turns in addition to being a right on red camera spotter, and if they do, what constitutes “running a red light”? Is it when the front of my car hasn’t entered the intersection yet (which is what I assume), or is there some other criteria? Thanks a lot.
Joe,
If you disobey a red light (going straight, left or right), then you are guilty. If you didn’t actually enter the intersection against a red signal, then you have a good defense.
Good luck.
Matt
This is completely out of control. I received a ticket to my old mailing address. I had no idea I was issued a redlight summons and they PUT THE TICKET ON MY CREDIT!!!!!! How is this legal? How is Nassau County getting away with this? They did not extend credit to me nor was I even the one driving the car when it was ticketed. I can understand them holding a fine against the plates but to put a violation on my credit report is completely unjust!
Layla,
You should pay your old fine and clear this up. As a judgment creditor, a court may file a blemish on your credit rating.
Matthew Weiss
Layla,
They get away with it because the courts, cops, insurance companies and banks that issue credit are all owned and controlled by the same parent companies, those being banks like Chase, Citibank, Goldman Sachs, Meryll Lynch, Bank of America and others who are all part of the Federal Reserve/Illegal central bank system that controls the US since 1913… that’s how. Cops and courts all get Federal money based on tickets and convictions. It’s all about the money because of what’s owed to the Central/Federal bank, which itself is unconstitutional as Ron Paul never ceases to remind Bernake of.
I just recieved a notice of liability for a red light camera violation. (date of notice is 2/18/2011)
The letter has….
(1) A picture of the plate.
(2) A picture of the car at the intersection with a red light that has been red for 000.4 seconds. The violation date is 1/12/2011 (snow storm) so the entire intersection is covered in snow. You cannot see the stop line.
(3) A partial picture showing of the top information and nothing else.
From what i read on the nassau county site …
(a) The camera takes 2 digital photos which document the violation.
(b) A violation is issued when your vehicle fails to stop at a clearly marked stop line.
It seems as if neither of these apply to this notice of liability.
Should I have a problem getting this dismissed?
DJS,
It sounds like you have a good defense. Plead not guilty, send in your explanation and keep your fingers crossed.
Good luck.
Matthew Weiss
PS Worst case is you pay $50 and get no points. So don’t sweat it too much.
Ok, same scenario as others above. At about 2:40 am on friday morning, February 18th, 2011 I had left the 24/7 Pathmark Supermarket on Marcus Avenue in New Hyde Park a few minutes before and was traveling West on Marcus Avenue. As you near New Hyde Park Road, Marcus sort of splits w/traffic intending to go North on New Hyde Park Rd. splitting to the right. At that light, which was red, I approached slowly. There was no oncoming traffic from West to East on Marcus, & none going south to North on New Hyde Park Rd. Other than my vehicle, both roads were deserted.
As I approached my red light on Marcus, and as I downshifted my standard transmission car to second gear, I looked every which way, saw no potential danger from any direction, and I then proceeded to complete my right turn. At that point, lights went off seemingly from everywhere. As I haven’t used this road in some time, I can’t be sure there is or isn’t a sign prohibiting right turns on red there. Really, under the circumstances, w/no traffic anywhere at that hour except my car, if there is no prohibition for making right turns at the red light there, isn’t it unfair to ticket me for that? Also, does anyone know if there is a sign saying not to turn right on red at that intersection? I realize I never came to a complete stop, but really, I was rolling really slowly, driving very carefully, & honestly believe being ticketed for this is nailing me for not adhering to the letter of the law, but I truthfully WAS adhering to the spirit of the law and my own standard of driving which is to drive CAREFULLY and CAUTIOUSLY because I take pride in being a CAREFUL — CAUTIOUS driver. Thanks in advance for any info, help, advice, etc.
Phil,
Even late at night and rolling slow, this is a moving violation. A violation of VTL 1111d1, disobey a red light, occurs when a motorist fails to come to a complete stop (i.e., all 4 wheels stop moving). The presence or absence of a sign permitting “right on red” does not matter here as you admit to failing to come to a complete stop.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but, of course, I have to give it to you straight.
With that said, I still recommend that you fight this ticket. It carries 2 points and roughly a $250 fine. We’re happy to help and believe that you have a very good chance to save points. Feel free to call us for a free consultation.
Matthew Weiss
2122-683-7373
i got a ticket from the camera going through a red light, yes i went through it while it was red. but in the picture the streets were covered in snow and you could barely see my car due to the heavy snowfall. there are 2 cars on the incoming traffic that if i were to try and stop i might have slid into them and cause an accident. so the safety program here is ridiculous. these cameras do not understand what is going on at the time they are flashing your license plate to make nassau county money. i was ticketed at 20mph not like i was driving out of control and carelessly i was actually trying to avoid an accident. i mailed in my ticket and will fight this even though i hear you should just pay it.
Mike,
I would plead not guilty and fight it. The weather conditions could help you win.
You have nothing to lose but your time and effort.
Good luck.
Matthew Weiss
Hi there i had recieved a red light traffic ticket on lakeville road and union turnpike when i had made a right turn and the light to make a right turn was green, but the right turn lane was covered with snow so i made it from the second lane. If i fight this can i win?
Parul,
You should definitely fight this. You have a chance but should take multiple photos from various locations as soon as possible to show the condition of the roadway.
Good luck with this one.
Matthew Weiss
Will be fighting a Left turn camera ticket next week. SB New Hyde Pk Rd at Marcus Avenue . Went back and fimed intersection. The turn signal yellow is barely 3 seconds and maybe less . The green is about 10 sec. Want to find out how many tickets are recorded there daily/ yearly for that left turn .
John,
I don’t have those stats but know how you can find it. You need to make a Freedom of Information Act request for this info. Direct your request to the agency that administers the red light camera program.
Good luck fighting it.
Matthew Weiss
thanks, I actually did put in for that to Nassau County last week and they got back to me and said they will have it to me shortly (3 to 4 weeks is their definition of shortly) , if it is available and subject to FOIA.
I get the feeling there are massive amounts of tickets at these left turn signals .
What a racket they have going there. Never have seen anything like what goes on on Cooper St. Massive amounts of people with red light tickets waiting on long line just to get into the so-called hearing room , then wait to be called for conference with someone (not clear if she was a prosecutor or not ), then if you choose to move onto the “trial” they play your video on the large screen .
I questioned whether the yellow was 3 seconds after filming the light myself. I think it is just under 3 seconds. I also began to question whether they were focusing on just the left turn signal and barely could get the words out of my mouth before being interrupted by the judge and told my argument was denied or something to that affect . This was after some stuttering by the prosecutor to my questions which the judge let her off the hook by proclaiming me guilty .
If i had any doubt, its gone , this is a money making thing . I wasnt able to even question the light. Then I asked about paperwork for appeal and counterclaim. They had an address in Brooklyn for an appeal , and the supervisor couldnt even tell me where to file counterclaim.
I am going after them legally. Cant believe they get away with this.
John,
I am sorry that you had such a bad experience. Fighting a traffic ticket in any court is difficult, especially one as busy at 16 Cooper Street in Hempstead.
By the way, 3 seconds for a yellow light is sufficient.
Matthew Weiss
To Elizabeth and others:
Please be advised that many, if not all, of these red light cameras were installed at intersections where right turns ARE permitted on red. I’ve seen several news reports on television state that these cameras were specifically put in to catch motorists who were not making complete stops at red lights before making their turns, which is akin to blowing a stop sign. This is probably why you got your ticket, NOT because a right turn on red wasn’t permitted at that intersection.
Mike,
This is an excellent point. Motorists approaching a red light cannot make a right on red unless and until they make a full stop.
Got a red light violation at marcus and lakeville. Thought right on red was permitted. Dont remember any sign to the contrary. Please advise
Mall, if this was a red light camera ticket, then I have to ask “Did you make a complete stop before making your right on red?” By complete stop, did all 4 tires stop moving for, at least, 1 second? If not, then you technically are guilty an should just pay the ticket. If not, then what do the photos show? Either way, this ticket carries 0 points, no negative insurance consequences and only a $50 fine.
On the other hand, if this ticket was issued by a police officer, then you definitely want to fight the ticket. A red light ticket issued by a police officer carries 3 points and, in Nassau County, can often be resolved as a 0-point ticket. In such event, feel free to call for a free consultation.
Matthew Weiss
212-683-7373
Dan,
I’d take photos of the intersection and the sign explicitly allowing a right on red, as you cannot be ticketed for a legal right turn. The cop who wrote you a ticket was being a total ass or he had a quota to fill that day and this ticket should be dismissed if you present evidence that you were not breaking any laws when you made that legal right turn on on a red as permitted by signage.
I got a red light violation for making a right turn in an area that a right on red is allowed. The cop still gave me a ticket. How do I fight this ticket without losing a day of work? They don’t offer a hearing by mail like NYC does. Any ideas will be appreciated (made a right from Marcus Ave into Lakeville Rd).
Daniel,
If you cannot appear, then the only way to fight it is through hiring an attorney. Most of my clients do not appear in court allowing me instead to handle it.
Feel free to call me for a free consultation. Otherwise, you’ll have to appear yourself. Check with the court, however, as many courts in Nassau County meet at night and, therefore, will may not affect your work schedule.
Matthew Weiss
212-683-7373
Daniel,
I just got the same ticket…what happened with yours?
Lisa
Like Daniel and Lisa, I also got a ticket for making a right turn on Lakeville Road at the Northeast corner of Marcus Avenue in Lake Success on a red light. I was not stopped by a cop, I received the notice of liability in the mail.
Cars turn right on red at this intersection all the time, thinking they are in Nassau, where it is legal (in fact, this morning, as I waited for the light to turn green because of the ticket, two cars behind me were beeping at me). Why do I bring this up? Because, apparently, this is the border of Queens, and in NYC you cannot turn right on red. Okay, fair enough. (So, to play Devil’s Advocate to Dan, the cop was legit in giving you a ticket for turning on red, just it was legit for me to be mailed a ticket.) But there is NO SIGN informing you of the Queens border! Actually, there is, on the Northern State Parkway — a good mile away from the intersection!!!
I will absolutely fight this — but any advice you can offer would be most appreciated!
Elizabeth, are you sure this is in Queens? I grew up in Great Neck and always assumed that this intersection was located in Lake Success/Nassau County.
If it is Queens, then this is one of the sneakiest ticket traps that I have ever heard about.
My best advice when you fight it is to discuss exactly what you wrote about. How this is a trap and there is no notice to those approaching from the north that you are or have entered Queens. Clearly, Lakeville Road between the LIE and the Northern State is within Nassau County so NYC should be required to advice that you have left Nassau (it not only mention the No Right On Red law).
Hi David-
I actually rec’d the same ticket. Making a right onto Lakeville from Marcus. But mine was from the camera. I mailed it in not-guilty due to the fact there’s no “no turn on red” sign there.
What came of yours?
Any luck? Any suggestions?
Thanks
-Chris
Chris and David, please let us know how you each make out.
Fingers crossed for you.
Matthew Weiss
What if in the online video or still pictures you can not see what color the left turn arrow is? It is obvious that the straight through light is red, but the turn arrows can not be seen.
Bill,
If the photo does not show that you violated the red light in both pictures, then you should win. You should also win if the photo does not show the color of the turn arrow. The photo should show your car before the crosswalk with the red phase illuminated and the second one should show your car in the intersection (going straight or turning) with the red phase illuminated. Both of these photos should also show whether any arrow light is illuminated and otherwise authorizing the turn.
what does amber 1 mean on a red light ticket and how do i find out how many seconds a yellow lite stays yellow at a particular intersection? thank you
Lights are supposed to remain amber for 2 to 3 seconds. You can time your light to see how it compares. I am not sure what “amber 1” mans but sounds like the police’ officer’s short-hand. If this ticket was from a camera, you will not get points from it and we do not recommend fighting it. Otherwise, feel free to call us for a free consultation.
Matthew Weiss
212-683-7373
I recieved a light ticket and i can not find it anywhere how do i get another one sent to my house or on line so i can pay on line please let me know what i need to do please asap
Was it a red light camera ticket? If so, you can locate it by searching the NYC Department of Finance website. If it is a red light ticket issued by a police officer, then you need to contact the court which governs the intersection where you received your ticket. My website has a New York traffic court directory which contains contact information for every traffic court in New York.
i’ve gone to several sites in order to pay a ticket i had received back in Feb in garden city, old country road despite the light paths being incorrectly marked but anyway i cannot seem to locate that ticket issued way back and the have not sent me anything in the mail so that i can address this how could it be? I’d hate for this to linger and or compound daily/monthly for that matter, can anyone help me out here with this dilemma perhaps? much appreciated!
Ann Chang,
Call the Garden City traffic court. It can locate a copy of your traffic ticket.
Matthew Weiss
When was the last time anyone ever heard of someone getting a ticket in NY for jaywalking? Probably never. Yet jaywalking is a danger to motorists as well as to the jaywalker, and of course the motorist is always to blame for injuries or fatalities. Some jaywalkers appear as if they actually want to be hit as way to make big bucks. Every day I have to dodge jaywalkers. Other states do enforce jaywalking laws. I would like to see you or someone write about this.
Gary, a Nassau County red light ticket can be paid onine at the following website:
https://www.violationinfo.com/
My name is Gary Schaffner. I received and ticket for disobeying a red light camera. I am looking were to send my fifty dollar fine.
On June 28, 2009, Newsday reported that it will cost Nassau County $1 million to start-up its red light camera program. They predict that 20 cameras will be installed by September 2009 and 50 by February 2010.
The Nassau County Parking & Violations Agency located at 16 Cooper Street in Hempstead will hire workers dedicated to handling the anticipated tripling of its current annual average of 300,000 tickets. The cameras are projected to bring in about $12 million per year.
It was estimated that a total of 125 red light cameras will be installed. Contrary to earlier reports (including in this blog), no intersections have been definitively chosen, but most of the original sites proposed by the county will be selected.
In Suffolk, where the state approved cameras at 50 intersections, installations will not start until at least early Fall.
Here is a complete up-to-date listing (January 2011) of the red light camera locations as provided by Newsday:
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/red-light-cameras-on-long-island-1.2224592
Thanks for posting Mike.
made a right from Marcus Ave. onto Lakeville Road as I have for years a few nights a week coming from Nassau Community College (where I teach) to my home in Great Neck. I have always assumed that was Nassau County. If that is Queens and not marked (no sign or any indication) I assume I’m going to get a ticket. Should I fight that?
Bob,
This intersection is in Queens (although most people don’t realize it). It has tricky and there cameras there catch a lot of drivers making the right on red. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but maybe you’ll get lucky and avoid receiving a red light camera ticket.
Matt
Matt – thank you for the confirmation. I am perfectly willing to assume responsibility for breaking any law on purpose (not that I ever do) but no government, at any level, should have the right to allow people to be suckered into breaking the law and profit by it. But, if ticketed I’ll pay and learn and bite my tongue. — Bob
This is a Nassau County Traffic light. Marcus Ave and Lakeville Rd. is in Nassau. Queens does not begin until you are west of Marcus Ave.,where it becomes the Grand Central Parkway service road.
Ken, this is the trickiest red light camera in our area. It is in Queens but motorists, thinking they are in Nassau County, get flashed when they make a right on red.
How is this Queens? All the street signs are Nassau. The entering NYC sign , no turn on red warning is way passed the intersection. Why is this happening? This should not be a ticket. If I get one, I will fight it.
Ken