How Can I Deduct Points From My NY Driver’s License?

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Once you are convicted of a moving violation in New York, there are only two ways to deduct points from your license.  One involves time and the other involves education.

But first lets discuss briefly how the New York point system works.  You are generally allowed up to 10 points on your driving record within 18 months (based on dates of offense).  At 11 points, your driver’s license can be suspended.  For more details about the points system, read my post entitled “How Many Points Am I Allowed On My New York Driver’s License?

So once you are convicted, are there any ways to get those points deducted?  The answer is “yes”.  One involves the passage of time.  After 18 months counting from the date of offense, you will no longer have those points vis-a-vis new, future tickets.  That is, convictions 18 months or more apart (based on date of offense) are not added to one another.   Note:  For insurance purposes, convictions count against you for 36 months based on the date of conviction.

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The other way to deduct points is to take a 6-hour New York State Driver Safety Class.  You can take such a Class once every 18 months and you can take it online or in-person.

The NYS Driver Safety Class does not technically remove the conviction, however.  Instead, the class deducts up to 4 points from your current total (while leaving any convictions visible on your record).  The class will only deduct your point total for convictions that have dates of offense that are BEFORE the date of completion of the class counting 18 months back.  It is for this reason that we often recommend to our clients with point issues to take this Class before they are potentially convicted of any open moving violation that could put them at 11 or more points.  They will get credit for the Class even if they are convicted of this traffic ticket afterwards.  Stated differently, as long as the date of offense precedes the Class by 18 months or less, then you will get credit for the Class vis-a-vis that traffic ticket (even if you are convicted of that ticket after you complete the class).  However, you will NEVER get a credit for future tickets (i.e., ones that are issued after you complete the Driver Safety Class).

Finally, you can only take the New York State Driver Safety Class once every 18 months so we recommend that save it for those instances when you either already have 4+ points on our record (so you get the full benefit) or when you are facing a possible suspension for too many points.

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  • Hello, good evening sir.
    I had a speeding ticket (4pt) issued on july.2018. And one more ticket was issued after
    5 month of this speeding ticket.
    I took my ddc class on jan.8.2019. That means i took my class within 18 months after i got the speeding ticket. I found guilty for this ticket on aug.2020. My question is ..
    1. will my ddc class will help me for this speeding ticket that i took on jan.2019?
    2. Since it was guilty after over 18 months…will it be count with other ticket that was issued after 5 months of this speeding ticket?
    Usually i heard if a ticket found guilty after 18 months of issued date, it never count with other ticket.
    Thank you sir.🙏

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  • Hello I have 16 point for speeding tickets in feb /2019 n now I got pull over today for red light , disobeying traffic pavement marking , unregistered car what gonna happen

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  • Shaharyar Khan
    December 10, 2019 6:37 pm

    i just wants to know how points works on license , By Violation date or when u get convicted, i have 8 points, ticket is old i have rescheduled it once and got a date after an year, so am wondering will it go away after 18 months of Violation or it will go away by the date of Conviction ?

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  • My granddaughter got a ticket for a wrong turn and it was issue by the officer I believe that’s3 points off her license she afraid cause she has 8 points already for speeding will her license be suspended

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    • Matthew Weiss
      August 15, 2019 10:44 pm

      Milly,

      IT could be but there is hope. Tell her to email us a photo of the front of her ticket to lawyer@nytrafficticket.com and include a return phone number. Upon receipt. we’ll call her to give further free advice.

      Matthew Weiss

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  • Got ticket for disobeying the traffic control sign (missed new no left turn sign) . Paid ticket on- line , but still have 2 points on my driver licenses. How to get rid of the points?
    Thank you

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    • Matthew Weiss
      February 5, 2019 8:09 pm

      Lola,

      Given that you already pled guilty, the only way to lessen your point total is by taking a NYS Driver’s Safety Class.

      Matthew Weiss

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  • How does Tlc in newyork review the point? Do they check just your points(18 months) or the record(4 years )?

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  • I had a ticket for failed to stop on traffic light signal. 80-13(a)3(vii). And TLC has sent me a summon. Advice me what should I do. And do u wok for TLC summons?

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    • Md,

      We do not fight TLC tickets but you can find an experienced TLC representative at the TLC court. You should plead not guilty to both tickets as this is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable outcome.

      Matthew Weiss

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  • I appreciate your research.

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    • Dan Stein,

      The post clearly states: “The NYS Driver Safety Class does not technically remove the conviction.” In any event, I have changed
      “remove” to “deduct” in the post so it is clearer. Thank you for your suggestion.

      Matthew Weiss

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  • I had a reply (thanks for that) from you( I cannot answer this question without knowing the date of offense for your 4-point speeding ticket.)
    for the question bellow: the date of offense of my 4 points was Nov.17.2015. Please reply.

    Hello! How are you sir?
    I had a speeding ticket (8 points) on Feb.2015. And I found guilty for 6 points on Feb.2016. And I have a upcoming hearing date for another speeding (4 point) ticket on may.2017. If I found guilty on this ticket for 4 point ,is it going to add with the last ticket which I was guilty for 6 points. My last Defensive Driving course was taken on January. 2015.
    Thanks.

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    • Md A Rahman,

      Because your Nov 2015, 4-point speeding ticket was issued within 18-months of your prior Feb 2015 6-point speeding ticket, the two convictions would be added together to give you a total of 10 points. The fact that you were convicted much later (May 2017) is irrelevant. The dates of the offense are what are controlling for purposes of calculating DMV points.

      Matthew Weiss

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  • Hello! How are you sir?
    I had a speeding ticket (8 points) on Feb.2015. And I found guilty for 6 points on Feb.2016. And I have a upcoming hearing date for another speeding (4 point) ticket on may.2017. If I found guilty on this ticket for 4 point ,is it going to add with the last ticket which I was guilty for 6 points. My last Defensive Driving course was taken on January. 2015.
    Thanks.

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  • It’s deceiving to use the term “remove” points when in reality nothing is removed. That’s why the DMV’s literature uses the word “reduce” which is more accurate.

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    • Dan Stein,

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’m a little insulted that you would use the verb “deceive” when describing my article. Like my the 100s of other articles which I have researched, written and published, it is intended solely to help NY motorist understand the various issues relating to their right to driving. With that said you are right that technically, the points technically are not “removed” by the DMV class (you actually get a reduction of 4).

      Matthew Weiss

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  • 1st speeding ticket in 15years, no other moving violations. In NYC ,ticket issued for going 50 on a 30mph off ramp.
    Have a clean CDL. Concerned about points.
    Not sure what’she the best course . Plead guilty on line and play fine.
    2) go to court plead guilty ask for reduction in points if that is done.
    3) contest ticket ,no deposition by officer issued. If found guilty,pay fine and then ask for point reduction. Being aware will loose day of work for court appearencephalitis.
    What is advisable sir. Thank you. B.Bell

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    • Bruce W Bell,

      You should plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable result. This carries 4 points and can adversely affect your insurance rates. Given your otherwise clean record, you likely can get this negotiated down to a less serious charge. If you cannot or do not want to travel to the court, then you can retain a NY traffic ticket lawyer to appear for you.

      Good luck!

      Matthew Weiss

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