Points on your record only count for DMV purposes for 18 months from the date of offense (and 36 months from the date of conviction for insurance purposes).
The Driver Violation Point System gives the New York State DMV a way to identify and take action against high risk drivers, which raises the question “how many points before license suspends in NY? The DMV assigns points for certain traffic violations. If you receive 6 or more points on your New York State driving record in 18 months, you must pay a Driver Responsibility Assessment Fee. If you get 11 points in an 18-month period, your driver license may be suspended. However, the point system is only one way to lose your license. For instance, three speeding convictions within 18 months results in a mandatory 6-month revocation, and a judge can suspend a motorist for even just one 8-point speeding ticket as it is considered an excessive speed.
You must be convicted of the traffic violation before points are added to your driving record and your point total is calculated based on the date of the violation, not the date of the conviction. The points for violations that all occur within the 18 months are added to calculate your point total. For details about how to calculate points, read my post entitled “How Long Does A NY Traffic Ticket Stay On My Driving Record?“
If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec. Convictions from Ontario and Quebec provinces transfer to your NY license in the same point totals as if they occurred in New York. Such convictions can affect your driver violation point total and Driver Responsibility Assessment.
The below chart sets forth the DMV points in NY assigned for common traffic violations.
Finally, points are not assigned for the following violations:
- any bicycle violation
- any pedestrian violation
- any parking violation
- any violation related to unregistered, unlicensed or uninsured operation
- any violation related to motor vehicle inspection, vehicle weights or dimensions or vehicle equipment other than inadequate service brakes and some head light violations
- a violation related to the improper use of High Occupancy Vehicle Lanes under VTL 1110(a)(h)
- any other violation not resulting from the operation of a motor vehicle
Recibí un una multa por FLD TO YIELD ROW PED el 07/01/2021 y declare culpable pague $138 y me dieron 3 puntos y ahora recibi una multa el 09/12/2022 por la niña que se quito el cinturon de seguridad y lamuta fue de $138 y 3 puntos y tambien declare culpable hce 2 años tome clases de manejo defensivo y me llego que tengo que pagar 300 por responsability assessment
Puedo hacer algo con esto?
Puede tomar una clase de seguridad vial del estado de Nueva York para eliminar hasta 4 puntos del DMV de su registro. Sin embargo, aún debe pagar la tarifa de evaluación del conductor de $ 300.
My license is suspended for traffic violation M40. I plead not guilty, forgot about on line court appearance 3/8/22. I don’t have the original ticket anymore. Pls advise how I can obtain moving violation details ?
You can obtain the details by contacting the court in which your case is pending.
Or you can hire us to deal with it. Feel free to call us at 212-683-7373 for a free consultation.
Hi, I currently have 5 pending tickets for a total of 10 points (I pled not guilty to all), with the first on 05/14/19 and the last on 02/19/20. I have 3 court dates scheduled for these, all upcoming later in the year. The issue is I am applying for Mta Bus Operator and need to have all tickets resolved so I have been advised to plead guilty and pay the fines before my MTA pre employment appointment (on 07/05/22). My first question is since I already have a conviction for a 2 pt ticket (date of violation 08/15/18) will my license now be suspended since I will have accumulated 12 points from 08/15/18 to 02/19/20 OR do I manage to escape the 18 month period by 4 days?? I’m not sure if the DMV is counting the 18 month period in day to day increments. Additionally, I did take a safe driving course on 02/29/20 so I believe this would also save me from license suspension? I realize the 10 points will be on my driving record for 4 years if I plead guilty and pay the fines today, but I need to resolve the tickets for MTA; I am just worried about license suspension. What do you advise I do in this situation? Thank you!
Gary, points are counted for DMV purposes from the date of offense. Because 08/15/18 to 02/19/20 is all within 18 months, these points will be added up together to determine your total.
With that said, the Driver Safety Class (if timely conpleted) will allow you to deduct points from your total to hopefully allow you to avoid a suspension.
I was recently convicted for operating a motor vehicle while using a potable electronic device in NYC which occurred in 2016. Unfortunately, I had other violations within an 18month period which incurred enough points(2014-2016) that the judge said he was going to suspend my license. This was over 6 years ago and I’ve had no other tickets since then. Can my license be suspended now?
The delayed conviction does not change the fact that you accumulated too many points back in 2014-2016.
It is proper for the judge to suspend for these points.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
and what happens then? Can license be reactivated with fines paid? What if I had the defensive driving course completed at that time. I had 8 points, and did defensive driving course, and then had +2 and + 2 in a 18 month period
Payment of past due fines will only result in the reinstatement of a suspended driver’s license if you pay any required suspension termination fees and there is no other reason for the suspension to be continued.
received a speeding ticket today for 36 on a 25 limit .. it says 4 points ..(have clean driving record ,0 points) should I plead guilty since my defensive driving course is coming up ?
We recommend that you plead not guilty. This is the only way to possibly receive a more favorable outcome.
Hey, I live in nyc, queens and had my license issued on 04/20/2021 and I recently got a ticket on 09/09/2021. I was going 55mph on a 25mph speed limit. Will my license be suspended? Do you think I’ll be able to get the ticket dismissed? I really dont want points on my license, I’m willing to pay the fine or even hire an attorney to fight the ticket. And if there are any classes that i can take before going to court to prevent from getting any points. Thank you
Will my license be suspended? Not idea. It depends on how fast your are charged with speeding and your driving record.
Do you think I’ll be able to get the ticket dismissed? It is possible but not likely.
And if there are any classes that i can take before going to court to prevent from getting any points. You can take a NYS Driver Safety Class to deduct 4 points from your license total. Safety
I got a ticket in NYC for driving over 43 mph. I did not even realize I was going that fast and on the ticket it displays how many points are deducted for speeding and it shows that 11 points are removed for speeding over 40mph. This was my first violation and I’m nervous about what will happen. I already took an accident prevention course for points deductions. My hearing is not scheduled until 10 months from now. Will my license be suspended? Do I plead guilty?
If you are convicted of this 11-point ticket, there is a good chance you will be suspended (especially if you have other convictions within 18 months).
Hi, I recently received a speeding ticket in Ohio speed limit was 70 mph the officer said I was clocked at 112 I don’t think I was going that fast. I have court on the 8th of September how can I avoid getting my licenses suspended?
We do not practice law in Ohio so cannot provide advice.
You should consult with (if not hire) an Ohio traffic lawyer. Good luck.
Hey Matthew, just wanted to see what I can do with my ticket. I got a 60 in a 50 in nyc (trooper gave me a break!) I know I’m guilty but I just don’t want the 3 points on my license. It’s my first offense and I’m 19 years old. Should I plead not guilty?
I cannot tell you what to do. However, because you already got a break, it is not likely that you will get a further one.
I live in NYS and just got 2 points on my license, now waiting for the fine. How much does that cost in NYS?
The fine will be determined by the judge within a statutory range. Assuming it’s a first offense, my best estimate for a 2-point ticket is $150.
can tickets in NY be deferred ?
I do not know what you mean by deferring tickets.
I was stopped for going 84 in a 65 in NY, and I was wondering if I should plead guilty or not. It was downhill, and I was over the speed limit, but I didn’t realize I was that over, but there were no other cars around. If when the officer asked me what he stopped me for, and I said, “I was speeding”, does it make sense to plead not guilty, especially as it says on the ticket that I said that? Or would it just be a waste of time? Thank you.
You should plead not guilty. This is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable result.
Hi, I am 22 y/o and I received a speeding ticket from a state trooper on an upstate highway going 80 on a 55. I don’t believe I was going 80, maybe 75, but I’m not entirely sure. I saw the cop right before he started following me and tried my best to slow down, but he still pulled me over. I really don’t want to have to pay a large fine but I’m worried of pleading not guilty since it was a state trooper. What should I do? There were barely any other cars on the highway and I was just trying to get home as it was over a 2 hour drive.
You should plead not guilty. This is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable result.
i was not at 102 but the cop said i “he drove at 102 to catch me”. Later i got 3 tickets for driving at 102, and 2 kids who removed their seat belts when the vehicle was pulled over.
Wow! That’s a big speed! You definitely need to fight these cases to avoid losing your license. Plead not guilty.
I just got a speeding ticket in NY going 63 in a 40. I am 21 years old and this is my first ticket. Do I just pay it and deal with the points or do I try and fight it? Will fighting it even do anything?
I recommend that you fight this speeding ticket because it carries 6 points, roughly a $200 fine and a $300 Driver Responsibility Assessment Fee. If you want a free consultation, feel free to email to email@example.com a copy of the front of your ticket and include a return phone number. We’ll call you upon receipt.
Hello. I received a ticket for going 90mph in a 65. The officer told me I would be receiving 8 points, is that correct.
Yes, this is an 8-point ticket and can result in you being suspended. We recommend that you plead not guilty.
Hi I received a ticket going 80 mph in 50 mph zone. But where the car sped up it was downhill. before i could slow down i saw a cop car behind me. This happened in nyc. are there any points for that type of ticket if so how many and should i plead guilty or not guilty. is there a way to not get any points. i told the officer i am medical worker when he saw my id after giving me the ticket. he stated he would have let me go if he have seen my work badge. are the points system is the smae for ny state and nyc?
This is an 6-point speeding ticket (points in NYC and NYS are the same) that carries roughly a $250 fine plus a $300 Driver Responsibility Assessment Fee, and, if you are convicted and have other recent convictions, can lead to a suspension of your driving license or privileges. It can also adversely affect your insurance rates (even if you have an otherwise clean record). You should definitely plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly save points and money.
I received a ticket for going 85 in 50 but I wasn’t going 85. is there a way for me to fight this ticket and not receive the points.
Yes, you can definitely fight this 8-point speeding ticket. It can adversely affect your driver’s license, insurance rates and wallet.
Feel free to email a photo of the front of it to firstname.lastname@example.org and include a return phone number. We’ll call you upon receipt to answer your other questions.
I was given a ticket last night for failing to yield to the middle lane when a police officer was pulled over on the right “shoulder” lane in Yonkers, NY. I didn’t know such a law existed. But I was wondering if I should plead not guilty. Apparently this can add 2 point to my license.
Yes, you should plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable outcome.
I just received a ticket for talking on speakerphone. Didn’t realize we aren’t allowed to touch the phone at all. (It’s 5 points) This is my first ticket. My uncle (former trooper) said to plead not guilty, and ask for a reduced amount of points. Is there any other way that I should go about this?
Sounds like your uncle gave you good advice (assuming that this ticket was not issued in New York City).
I got a ticket in Queens doing 61 in a 30 zone. I have not gotten speeding ticket in 20+ years. Should I plead guilty and pay the fine?
You should definitely plead NOT guilty. Despite your otherwise clean record, this is a pretty serious ticket.
Hi, I received a ticket for going 71 in a 50. I have never received a speeding ticket before this and this ticket holds 6 points against my license. There was a black pick up truck behind me up my ass and I was trying to get away from him. The police officer also acknowledged the black pick up truck going extremely fast. I explained what was happening to the police officer but he obviously didn’t care. This ticket is for $203 plus now I’m told that i’ll be getting another letter in the mail stating that i’ll owe another $300 for a drivers responsibility assessment fee. Do you recommend me going to court to fight this? I’m in Staten Island, NY
Yes, definitely fight this ticket. Call us if you’d like to discuss our thoughts on how to attack it.
I was pulled over for going 93 on 55. I am a 28-year-old female and have a relatively very clean driver’s history; the last ticket I have received was around 10 years ago. I am deeply distraught by this incident and have no idea how to handle it or the repercussions of it. I am planning on pleading guilty and just paying the fine, but do not know if that is the best thing to do.
We recommend that you plead not guilty because this speeding ticket carries 8 points, roughly a $250 fine, a $450 Driver Responsibility Assessment Fee an insurance hike and even potentially a suspension. We can help. Feel free to email us a photo of the front of your ticket to email@example.com and include a return phone number.
We’ll call you upon receipt.
I have 4 points on my license (Violation date 11/2018). I have an upcoming court date for a MV that comes with 5 points (Violation date 4/2018) AND a separate upcoming court date for a MV that comes with 5 points (Violation date 8/2018). Even though these violations would be over the 18 Month point period do i still risk being suspended? If so how long would it be suspended? i need to drive for work and other important duties.
You are in risk of suspension because all 3 violations occurred within 18 months of one another. The length of the suspension will likely be 30 to 120 days. Feel free to call us at 212-683-7373 if you have any other questions.
I was speeding on I87 (85 in a 65) When I got the ticket it said my violation is FLD TO USE/IMPROPER USE-4-WAY FLASH. I am not a New York resident and I have no idea what this means. I also cant find anything on the internet to help me out
The police officer did you a favor and wrote the ticket up as a 2 point ticket. I therefore recommend that you do not fight it. If you do, there is chance that the court will amend the charge back to the original 4-point speeding offense. At the very least, the court will likely not give you a further reduction.
A month ago I received to tickets at ones. One for speeding in school zone – 53 instead of 20 as well as passing a red light. The officer said he had calculated my speed based on his experience but also used the radar. I was going fast but didn’t think myself to be that much over. I am scheduled to appear before the judge next week. No prior points. What is the worst case scenario, and what are my options? Thank you
We cannot fully answer your question because how you fight these tickets depends on where they were issued.
The tickets were issued in Lynbrook, NY
Lynbrook is a good court. They are pretty reasonable. We would recommend trying to pursue a plea bargain before deciding on whether you want to take it to trial.
The plan would be to plead not guilty, with the hope to walk out with lesser points? What would be considered a good deal, and at what point would I need legal help – before or after the court date? Thank you
Feli, a traffic lawyer can help get you the best deal. An experienced lawyer knows your rights and is familiar with the DMV system. Retaining a lawyer does not, of course, guarantee that you’ll get a better result but it certainly ensures that your rights are protected.
I have a ticket for having a cell phone in my hand. Anyway to beat it? I received the ticket 7/28/2018
I postpone once. To get points taken off by Insurance company i have to wait to April 2020 for defensive driving. Should i go down to DMV and post a 40$ bond to delay the court day. My court date is 1/17/2020. Its in Staten Island. Note i 0 points as of today.
It will be hard but not impossible. It cannot hurt to delay it further.
I received a speeding ticket on 12/10/16 I was going 81MPH on a 50MPH zone. now I plead not guilty and rescheduled twice and I just had my hearing on 08/29/2019 and was found guilty but they reduced my points from 8 points to 6 points now my question is will those points still hit my license since it has been more than 2 years since ticket was issued. and I now have a Florida license will that affect me still.
Our article is pretty clear as to how to calculate points. But let me try and explain it a different way. Points last for DMV purposes for only 18 months. Thereafter, and going forward, those points do not count. However, even if you are convicted years later, the DMV will go back to the date you received your ticket and county how many points did you have, retroactively, during the past and forward 18 months.
In your case, the 12/10/16 violation dates is greater than 18 months ago and therefore will not be added to your current NY DMV point total. With that said, a NY conviction will transfer onto a FL license so you need to check with a FL traffic lawyer as to the affect of this ticket there.
I currently have 9 pts. I am a resident of NYS 25 Y.O. Male
I recently received a ticket 48/30 (1110D) I just landed two great jobs and commute to both.
Will I truly have to forefit those positions because the judge will ‘revoke’ or ‘suspend’ my license?
Marcus Bennett Norman,
Have you take the NYS Driver Safety Class yet? This could help.
Call us to discuss.
Hi my name is Paris I recently got pulled over for going 90 in a 55 i am guilty of going that fast I had a logical reason but will i lose my license for this ticket ? No i did not appear in court yet.
You should plead not guilty.
If you do, you may be able to avoid a suspension.
should I pled guilty or not and I should pay it online? I am new driver less than 6 months. thanks
You should plead not guilty assuming your ticket is a moving violation (you forgot to describe it). While on probation, you moving violations can lead to a suspension.
I was ticketed on 6/28 for going 84 in a 65, I mailed in the ticket with a plea of not guilty and received a letter for reduced charges. The charge is, Disobeying a traffic control device, that comes with a maximum $150 fine and 2 points on my license. The points seem very unnecessary, is there anything else i can do besides go to trial?
Hannah L, there are no other options to resolve this ticket other than plea bargaining or going to trial.
Sorry to report.
Hi- my wife got a “violation op mv elec dev” ticket 9/20/15. The officer said she was texting on the phone while driving and I was in the car with her and she was not texting. The court postponed her trial 2 times and last year she postponed it because she was pregnant. This year she is out of the country and they would not postpone it. she went a month before her trip to the court and the judge said it is to old of a ticket to postpone. What should we do, she is not guilty and she can not appear in court. What happens if she doesn’t show and can I go for her? Thank you
Given her inability to attend court, she should retain an attorney to appear in her absence. Feel free to call us to discuss further.
I got a speeding ticket for going 75 in a 55 however I don’t think I was doing more the 65-70 at the time I was mostly just keeping up with the person in front of me. even the cop said that the speed was “before I slowed down” and he was coming from the opposite direction so he didn’t have his radar om for very long should I fight this ticket
You should plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable outcome.
Hello Mr. Weiss,
I received a speeding ticket on November 25th 2017. The officer claimed I was going 73mph which would put me at 31+ over. I read what you wrote above, I have a court appearance in August, would I still get the 8 points if I’m found to be guilty?
If you lose, this 31+ speed, you will be given 8 points. However, for DMV point purposes, those points will added to your driving record as of Nov 25 2017 (the date you received the ticket). After 18 months (or on May 25, 2019), those points would no longer count towards your DMV total.
So basically I would be assessed the points but they would be taken away because we’re past May 25, 2019.
I got pulled over for safely executing a left turn after oncoming traffic passed because I had turned out of a turn lane at a traffic light intersection in Brooklyn that only had one light over the street, with no special turn signal visible on that light. However, unbeknownst to me, there was a special arrow all the way over 45+ degrees at the corner where I was turning — so, if I had purposely looked at the corner (why would you?) or happened to see it while I was executing my turn, then I could have seen it. This intersection is unlike any other in the area — all others have regular green lights with no turning arrow. Of course, the police officer was lying in wait because this was an unusual traffic pattern. It was 3 points and a fine (disobeying traffic light). I have a clean record in NY and have since moved to D.C. — would a traffic court allow me to pay the fine but not give me points? I don’t want my insurance to be affected and have an otherwise clean record (and now a D.C. license) or should I just take the points? The incident occurred last spring.
In NYC, the traffic court is unable to allow me to pay the fine but not give points. It is generally an “all or nothing” court because they do not plea bargain.
I was pulled over speeding one morning on my way to work. The trooper said i was going 90mph despite the fact that im sure i wasnt going that fast, 80-85mph at most (when i noticed the trooper up ahead i also started to slow down). He wrote me a ticket and when i went to court they said i have two options: get 8 points on my license and pay $440 or appear in youth court to try and get a better deal. Since he said I was going 90mph is there any chance i could get a better deal? or is it better to just take the 8 points and take a defensive drivers course to get points reduced?
You should plead not guilty and fight this ticket. This is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable result.
I was pulled over when some one just stepped off sidewalk to cross the pedestrian I turned right I did not give way should I fight this?
This ticket carries 3 points and roughly a $150 fine. If you have any otherwise clean record, it would not be unreasonable to just pay this one (especially given that you admit to not giving way).
I received a speeding ticket and I pled guilty and a letter why I could not be in court because I work the grave shift. I then received a letter telling me to report to city court because they can not reduce my points. I will be given 8 pts. I have never received pts in my 42 years of driving. Will I loose my license? How will this affect my insurance? Do I need a lawyer present?
Answers to your questions in bold below:
Will I loose my license? Given your otherwise clean record, it is not likely that you will be suspended for just this ticket.
How will this affect my insurance? It could. One speeding ticket conviction that is 16+ mph can you result in an increase in insurance premiums.
Do I need a lawyer present? Since you apparently already pled guilty, there is nothing with which a lawyer can help you.
I got pulled over today for driving 90mph in a 55mph zone. I seriously need to work on slowing down :(. The trooper was nice and did not give me a speeding ticket. He instead violated me with disobeying traffic control device. I have 2 previous speeding tickets on my record. They’re older than 18 months. He mentioned that if I appeared in court, he will be there and that the speeding reading will be reported. What should I do?
Wow! You got very lucky!! Given what you write, I think you should plead guilty and accept the 2-points. If you fight it, I doubt that they will lower it further and they likely could amend it back to the original 8-point ticket.
HI Mr. Weiss! Speeding ticket June 19, 2017. pled guilty paid fine and surcharge $203. Assessed 4 points. When will the four points go off/ be removed from my DMV record/ history?
Thank you for this website!
The 4 points goes away for points purposes on Dec 19, 2018. It remains on your record forever.
i have 2 tickets from 2016 and i am supposed to got court for both of them sometime in Nov of this year. So if what i read is correct, if i plead guilty to both of them, i won’t get any points on my lic? i understand it will still be on my record for another year but seriously no points?
Incorrect. Please re-read my article. If you plead guilty, you will get points placed on your license. However, those points will be placed retroactively back to the date (or dates) that you received those tickets in 2016.
However, going forward, those 2016 points will no longer count vis-a-vis new tickets (because those would be more than 18 months from the 2016 dates of offense).
Got a speeding ticket=4.points.
Traffic sign=2 points.
Driving is my livelihood now it’s taking away.also one went up what can I do.
You should plead not guilty and fight this ticket.
I am NJ driver and I got speeding ticket 1180D for driving at 72mph in 50mph zone at Verazano bridge this week. This is my first ever traffic ticket and I am 36 years. I just did not realize that I was driving that fast.
I recently changed my car registration from NY to NJ. After NJ registration was done, I did not know that I had to go for NJ inspection, even if my NY inspection sticker was still valid. Our mistake! So I got another ticket at the same time 1110A.
I understand that it will increase my insurance premium. I also know that I have to keep myself under 11 points in order to continue driving in NY. I learned that I will get 2 points on my NJ license for each ticket I get out of state. The total penalty on tickets appears to be $203+$138=$341.
Please advise how should I proceed with this weird situation of mine?
Depending on your advised path, how much expense I should keep in my mind?
Also, will I get 2 points or 4 on my NJ license? 🙁
Thanks alot for your help!
Please advise how should I proceed with this weird situation of mine? Plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly save points.
Depending on your advised path, how much expense I should keep in my mind? Roughly $500 (more if you retain a NY traffic lawyer and still lose).
Also, will I get 2 points or 4 on my NJ license? You will get 2 NJ points and 6 NY points if you lose.
Hi may name Igor, have I got speed ticket up to 70mph on Verazano brige speed zone 45mph, what need do,plead guilty? tell me what to do.Thank you.
You should plead not guilty as this is the only way to possibly obtain a more favorable outcome.
Wanted to know can you get 2 speeding tickets at the same time with 2 different speeding limits by the same cop in 1 stop.?? Kings county area ty.
You CAN receive two such speeding tickets. However, you have a very strong defense to one of them.